aijaz alamdar wrote:
Abdullah Ibn Saba (Part I)
Enemies of Islam whose goal were/are to split the Muslims,
(1) Tabari, (2) Dhahabi(He has also cited from Tabari),(3) Ibn Abi Bakir ( He has also recorded from Ibn Athir, who has recorded from Tabari), (4) Ibn Asakir. (5) Nicholson from Tabari, (6) Encyclopedia of Islam from Tabari, (7) Van Floton from Tabari, (8) Wellhauzen from Tabari, (9) Mirkhand from Tabari, (10) Ahmad Amin from Tabari, and from Wellhauzen, 10) Farid Wajdi from Tabari, (12) Hasan Ibrahim from Tabari.
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Dear Alamdar Sahab,
I have read the History compiled by Tabari, Al Athir, Ibn Kathir, Ibn Khaldun and Ibn Khalqan.
They all have quoted Tabari.
If the Tabari is so untrustworthy for Shias in respect of Ficitonal Character of Abdullah Ibn Sabah [Inventor of Ghulata Rafizi Religion] then would you like to solve a riddle that most of the Narrations of Tabari regarding Incidents of Jamal, Siffin, Neherwan, and Tragedy of Karbala were compiled by Giant Shia Historians which are under:
1 - Abu Mukhnif Lut bin Yahya Azdi Ghamidi, 2 - Muhammad bin Umar Waqidi,
3 - Hisham Al Kalbi, 4 - Mohammad Bin Hisham Al Kalbi [Kalbi's son],
5 - Abu Maashar, 6 - Sudi, 7 - Al Imama Wal Siyasa allegedly by Al Qutaiba
And if history is authentic for you then the following is also recorded in history.
Relationship of Hazrat Ali Ibn Talib [May Allah be pleased with him] with Banu Ummayya [Ummayyads] and that relationship through marriages after the Incidents of Siffin and Karbala.
1- Three daughters of Hazrat Ali Ibn Talib [May Allah be pleased with him] were married to Muawiyah bin Marwan, Abdulmalik Bin Marwan, and Amir Kuraiz Ummavi respectively. [Jumharatul Ansab by Ibn Hazm and Al Bidaya Wal Nihaya by Ibn Kathir]
2- Hazrat Ali [May Allah be pleased with him]'s son Hazrat Hasan [May Allah be pleased with him]'s grand-daughters married in Banu Ummayya:
3 - Syeda Nafeesa Bin Zaid Bin Hassan w/o Alwalid Bin Abdul Malik Bin Marwan [Shia Source Umdatul Talib Fi Ansab Aal Abi Talib published in India]
4- Zainab Bin Hassan Masanna w/o Alwalid Bin Abdul Malik Bin Marwan [Jumharatul Ansab by Ibn Hazm]
5 - Umme Qasim Bin Hassan Masanna w/o Marwan bin Aban [Grandson of Hazrat Usman (May Allah be pleased with him)] and after he died she married to Ali Bin Hussain aka Zainul Abideen [Jumharatul Ansab by Ibn Hazm]
6 - Hammada Bin Hassan Massanna w/o Ismail Bin Abdul Malik Bin Abdul Haris Bin Al Hakam [nephew of Marwan Bin Al Hakam (May Allah be pleased with him)] [Jumharatul Ansab by Ibn Hazm]
7- Khadija Bin Hussain Bin Hassan Bin Ali w/o Ismail Bin Abdul Malik Bin Abdul Haris Bin Al Hakam (that was before the marriage of Hammada with him) [Jumharatul Ansab by Ibn Hazm]
8- Most of the daughters [Non Fatimid] of Hazrat Ali [May Allah be pleased with him] married in Banu Jafar, Banu Aqeel, Banu Abbas and Banu Marwan [Jumharatul Ansab by Ibn Hazm]
9 - Syeda Sakina d/o Hazrat Hussain Ibn Ali [May Allah be pleased with him] after the death of Muasab Bin Zubair, married Marwan Bin Al Hakam's grandson Al Asbagh Bin Abdul Aziz Bin Marwan, his econd wife was Umme Yazeed d/o Yazid Bin Muawiyah [Jumharatul Ansab by Ibn Hazm, Al Muarif Ibn Qutaiba, Kitab Nasbul Quraish]
10 - Rabia bint Syeda Sakin Bint Hazrat Hussain Ibn Ali [May Allah be pleased with him] w/o Abbas Bin Al Walid Bin Abdul Malik Bin Marwan [Kitab Nasb Quraish]
Should I quote more 'Reliable History'
If the Tabari is so untrustworthy for Shias in respect of Ficitonal Character of Abdullah Ibn Sabah [Inventor of Ghulata Rafizi Religion] then would you like to solve a riddle that most of the Narrations of Tabari regarding Incidents of Jamal, Siffin, Neherwan, and Tragedy of Karbala were compiled by Giant Shia Historians which are under:
1 - Abu Mukhnif Lut bin Yahya Azdi Ghamidi, 2 - Muhammad bin Umar Waqidi,
3 - Hisham Al Kalbi, 4 - Mohammad Bin Hisham Al Kalbi [Kalbi's son],
5 - Abu Maashar, 6 - Sudi, 7 - Al Imama Wal Siyasa allegedly by Al Qutaiba
And if history is authentic for you then the following is also recorded in history.
Relationship of Hazrat Ali Ibn Talib [May Allah be pleased with him] with Banu Ummayya [Ummayyads] and that relationship through marriages after the Incidents of Siffin and Karbala.
1- Three daughters of Hazrat Ali Ibn Talib [May Allah be pleased with him] were married to Muawiyah bin Marwan, Abdulmalik Bin Marwan, and Amir Kuraiz Ummavi respectively. [Jumharatul Ansab by Ibn Hazm and Al Bidaya Wal Nihaya by Ibn Kathir]
2- Hazrat Ali [May Allah be pleased with him]'s son Hazrat Hasan [May Allah be pleased with him]'s grand-daughters married in Banu Ummayya:
3 - Syeda Nafeesa Bin Zaid Bin Hassan w/o Alwalid Bin Abdul Malik Bin Marwan [Shia Source Umdatul Talib Fi Ansab Aal Abi Talib published in India]
4- Zainab Bin Hassan Masanna w/o Alwalid Bin Abdul Malik Bin Marwan [Jumharatul Ansab by Ibn Hazm]
5 - Umme Qasim Bin Hassan Masanna w/o Marwan bin Aban [Grandson of Hazrat Usman (May Allah be pleased with him)] and after he died she married to Ali Bin Hussain aka Zainul Abideen [Jumharatul Ansab by Ibn Hazm]
6 - Hammada Bin Hassan Massanna w/o Ismail Bin Abdul Malik Bin Abdul Haris Bin Al Hakam [nephew of Marwan Bin Al Hakam (May Allah be pleased with him)] [Jumharatul Ansab by Ibn Hazm]
7- Khadija Bin Hussain Bin Hassan Bin Ali w/o Ismail Bin Abdul Malik Bin Abdul Haris Bin Al Hakam (that was before the marriage of Hammada with him) [Jumharatul Ansab by Ibn Hazm]
8- Most of the daughters [Non Fatimid] of Hazrat Ali [May Allah be pleased with him] married in Banu Jafar, Banu Aqeel, Banu Abbas and Banu Marwan [Jumharatul Ansab by Ibn Hazm]
9 - Syeda Sakina d/o Hazrat Hussain Ibn Ali [May Allah be pleased with him] after the death of Muasab Bin Zubair, married Marwan Bin Al Hakam's grandson Al Asbagh Bin Abdul Aziz Bin Marwan, his econd wife was Umme Yazeed d/o Yazid Bin Muawiyah [Jumharatul Ansab by Ibn Hazm, Al Muarif Ibn Qutaiba, Kitab Nasbul Quraish]
10 - Rabia bint Syeda Sakin Bint Hazrat Hussain Ibn Ali [May Allah be pleased with him] w/o Abbas Bin Al Walid Bin Abdul Malik Bin Marwan [Kitab Nasb Quraish]
Should I quote more 'Reliable History'
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