Comparing a pagan holiday of Valentine's day and pagan god cupid to Muslim celebration of Prophet (PBUH) is simply pathetic and very low. You can not compare one with the other. Issue of bidat is a totally different subject and most likely you and I will have 100% agreement on that
And thus they are out if Islam
This may be very radical approach for your secular mind But for Muslims this belief “there is no god but Allah” is the very basic root of Islam and mandatory requirement for one's being Muslim. Does this make sense to you? (I bet not)
Dear Atif Sahab,
What I meant to say that before criticizing somebody's culture Muslims should put their own house in order and look into their own society as what is going on within their societies. Celebrating Non-Sense Eid Milaad-un-Nabi and other such Urs [because of being an Innovation "Bida'at"] is worse than consuming Alcohol and Visiting Brothel.
People who are indulged in Alcohol and Whore Mongering, Inside Disco know that is sin and but it is personal [between man and his God] but these Religious Processions no matter Muharram, Rabiul Awwal, Farooq-e-Azam Day, Abu Bakar Siddiq Day, Jashn-e-Mauld-e Kaaaba, Usman Ghani Day, etc etc. incite anarchy and create unnecessary problems for the citizens [I wonder have you been to Pakistan lately you would have known as to how for days traffic jams, misuse of loudspeakers, desk thumping mullahs all night long make life miserable].
No such thing in UAE and other Arab countries would be found, yes there are Discos, Clubs and Bars but not the Non-Sense in the name of religion above.
Dear Atif Sahab,
The post below may please be read as per Islamic point of veiw [which we exploit more than the need]
The Celebrations/Mournings [except two Eids all are Bida'at i.e. Innovations] Events which are observed by Muslims [events which I sent you in my earlier post] carry such horrendous activities [ e.g. Shirk Polytheism] which can put any Muslim out of Islam [if he/she is doing it knowingly]. Many sins can be forgiven by God [its His discretion but not Shirk-Polytheism]. Would you like to tell me as to what goes around in these Processions which certain Muslims carry out if not Shirk.
Regarding your statment above "And thus they are out of Islam".
Answer: One of my Indian Friend had quoted the verses below from Mussadas-e-Hali:
Who are out of Islam?
Kare gair But ki pooja to kafir
Jo theharaye Beta Khuda ka to kafir
Kare Aag ko apna quibla to kafir
Per Mominon per kushaada hain rahein,
Parastish karein shauq se jis ki chaahein
Na Sunni mein aur Jafri mein ho ulfat,
Na Nomani-o-Shaf’ ei mein ho millat,
Wahabi se Sufi ki kam na ho nafrat
Muqallad kare na-muqallad per la’nat,
Rahe ahl-e-qibla mein jang aisi baaham
Ke Din-e-Khuda par hanse saara aalam…….
What makes Muslim a Kaafir?
1 – Shirk or associating others in worship with Allaah. Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):
“Verily, Allaah forgives not (the sin of) setting up partners (in worship) with Him, but He forgives whom He wills, sins other than that, and whoever sets up partners in worship with Allaah, has indeed strayed far away” [al-Nisa’ 4:116]
“Verily, whosoever sets up partners (in worship) with Allaah, then Allaah has forbidden Paradise to him, and the Fire will be his abode” [al-Maa’idah 5:72]
That includes praying to the dead, seeking their help, making vows and offering sacrifices to them or to the jinn or to the grave.
2 – Whoever sets up intermediaries between himself and Allaah, asks them to intercede, and puts his trust in them, is a kaafir according to scholarly consensus.
3 – Whoever does not regard the mushrikeen as kaafirs, or doubts that they are kaafirs, or regards their way as correct, is a kaafir.
4 – Whoever believes that anything other than the teaching of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) is more complete than his teachings, or that the rulings of anyone else are better than his rulings – such as those who prefer the rule of false laws to his rulings – is a kaafir.
5 – Whoever hates any part of that which the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) brought, even if he acts in accordance with it, is a kaafir, because Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):
“That is because they hate that which Allaah has sent down (this Qur’aan and Islamic laws); so He has made their deeds fruitless” [Muhammad 47:9]
6 – Whoever makes fun of anything in the religion of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him), or makes fun of any texts that refer to rewards or punishments, is a kaafir. The evidence for that is the verse (interpretation of the meaning):
“Say: Was it at Allaah, and His Ayaat (proofs, evidences, verses, lessons, signs, revelations, etc.) and His Messenger that you were mocking?
Make no excuse; you disbelieved after you had believed” [al-Tawbah 9:65-66]
7 – Sihr (witchcraft) – including spells to turn one person against another or to make someone love another. Whoever does this or approves of it is a kaafir. The evidence for that is the verse (interpretation of the meaning):
“but neither of these two (angels) taught anyone (such things) till they had said, ‘We are for trial, so disbelieve not (by learning this magic from us)’” [al-Baqarah 2:102]
8 – Supporting the mushrikeen and helping them against the Muslims. The evidence for that is the verse in which Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):
“O you who believe! Take not the Jews and the Christians as Awliyaa’ (friends, protectors, helpers), they are but Awliyaa’ of each other. And if any amongst you takes them (as Awliyaa’), then surely, he is one of them. Verily, Allaah guides not those people who are the Zaalimoon (polytheists and wrongdoers and unjust)” [al-Maa'idah 5:51]
9 – Whoever believes that some people are allowed to operate outside the law of Muhammad (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) just as al-Khidr operated outside the law of Moosa (peace be upon him) is a kaafir, because Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):
“And whoever seeks a religion other than Islam, it will never be accepted of him, and in the Hereafter he will be one of the losers” [Aal ‘Imraan 3:85]
10 – Turning away from the religion of Allaah, not learning it and not acting in accordance with it. The evidence for that is the verse (interpretation of the meaning):
“And who does more wrong than he who is reminded of the Ayaat (proofs, evidences, verses, lessons, signs, revelations, etc.) of his Lord, then turns aside therefrom? Verily, We shall exact retribution from the Mujrimoon (criminals, disbelievers, polytheists, sinners)” [al-Sajdah 32:22]
The Fastest Way to Leave Islam:
About calling other Muslims "kafir," we read the following hadith: It is reported on the authority of Ibn `Umar that the Prophet (may peace and blessings be upon him) said: Any person who calls his brother: O Unbeliever! (then the truth of this label) would return to one of them. If it is true, (then it is) as he asserted, (but if it is not true), then it returns to him (and thus the person who made the accusation is an Unbeliever). [Muslim]
The Messenger sallallaahu 'alayhi wa sallam said: "He who says to his brother 'O Disbeliever' , then it returns upon one of them." [Al-Bukhaaree, Muslim, Maalik, at-Tirmidhee and Abu Dawood] He also said: "And he who accuses a believer of Kufr (disbelief) then it is like killing him." [Al-Bukhaaree]
Imaam an-Nawawee said, "They differ as regards interpretation of this "returning", so it is said, "Kufr returns upon him if he is making that lawful", and this is far from the context of the narration, and it is said, "it is taken to refer to the Khawaarij", since they declare believers to be Kaafiroon (disbelievers) ."[Abbreviated from an-Nawawee's "Sharh" (explanation) of Saheeh Muslim]
Imaam al-Haafidh (Ibn Hajr) says, "And what is correct is that the hadith (narration from the Messenger sallallaahu 'alayhi wa sallam was said as a warning against a Muslim saying that to his brother. It is said, "What returns upon him is his speaking ill of his brother and the sin of declaring him a kaafir (disbeliever) ", and this is reasonable. It is also said, "It is to be feared that this will lead him into kufr", just as it is said, "sins leads towards kufr". Thus it is feared that if he continues in that and persists in it then he will have a bad end. I prefer from these sayings that it refers to the one who says it to someone from whom nothing is known except Islaam and there is no justification or reason for him to claim that he is a kaafir. So in such a case he becomes a kaafir himself because of that, and this will be explained. So the meaning of the hadith is that his judgement of takfeer (making someone a kaafir) returns upon himself, so what is meant is takfeer not kufr. So it is as if he passed judgement of kuft upon himself since he passed this judgement on one who is like him (ie. a muslim)"[Abbreviated from "Fathul-Baaree]
Imaam ash-Shawkaanee said, "Judging that a Muslim has left Islaam and entered into Kufr is something that is not fitting for a Muslim who believes in Allaah and the Last Day except with a proof (Burhaan) which is clearer than the daytime sun, since it is established in the authentic hadith reported by a group of Companions that he who says to his brother "O Kaafir!" Then it returns back to one of them." In another wording, "Whoever addresses a man with Kufr, or says 'Enemy of Allaah' and he is not that, then it returns back upon him [Muslim]
Messenger sallallaahu 'alayhi wa sallam: "Abusing a Muslim is open sin and killing him is kufr" [Al-Bukhaaree and Muslim.]
And in relation to his saying:
"The Muslim is the Brother of a Muslim, he does not oppress or forsake him." [Muslim]
Also in relation to his saying:
"All of the Muslim to the Muslim is inviolable; his blood, his wealth and his honour." [Muslim, Abu Daawood and At-Tirmidhee]
Imaam Al-Qurtubee says in his tafseer
(exegesis/explanati on) of Sooratul Hujuraat: " ... and His (Allaah) saying:
"lest your deeds be rendered fruitless while you perceive it not'." [Soorah al-Hujuraat 49:2]
does not mean that a person becomes a kaafir without knowing since just as a person does not become a believer except through choosing eemaan (faith) over kufr, then likewise a believer does not become a kaafir without intending kufr and choosing it, and there is consensus (ijma') regarding this."[Tafseer of al-Qurtubee]