Monday, October 20, 2008

Veracity of Tabari's Islamic History - 7

syed-mohsin naquvi wrote:


Thank you for your response.

You may criticise Khumayni as much as you like. There were points in his policies that I disagreed with. The point is Khumayni was not infallible. He was prone to make mistakes very much like you and I, and he did. I think he made a big mistake by not stopping the war when he had conquered a lot of Iraqi territory and let it go on for another four years. I do not think we can associate anything Khumayni did to any of the policies of the twelve Imams. Yes, the Shia theology is based on the teachings of the twelve Imams, but you would be hard pressed finding anything bad in Imams'characters, as bad as we find in Muawiyyah's character. That is my basic point.

Thank you.


Syed-Mohsin Naquvi

Dear Syed Mohsin Naquvi Sahab,

Regarding Manaqib [Virutes]-e-Maula Ali [May Allah be pleased with him] as well as other Companions that includes Hazrat Muawiyah [May Allah be pleased with everyone of them] of Prophet Mohammad [PBUH], I follow what the Quran and Authentic Hadiths of the Prophet Mohammad [PBUH] say.

“No Wali {saint} can reach the status of the Sahaabah. Hadhrat Uwais Qarni {Rahimaullah} with all his loftiness could not match the lowest Sahaabi [Companion of Prophet Mohammad (PBUH)] because he did not achieve the benefaction of the company of Prophet Mohammad {PBUH}. Someone asked Abdullah Bin Mubarak {RA- Scholar of Hadith} as to who is nobler, Hadrath Muawiya or Umar bin Abdul Aziz. He replied: “The dust that settled in the nose of Muawiyah’s horse in the company of Prophet {PBUH} is by far better than Umar Bin Abdul Aziz {Rahimullah}.”

Regarding Infallibale Shia Imams as per Shia Literature WHICH THEY ATTRIBUTE TOWARDS A COMPANION I.E. Hazrat Ali [May Allah be pleased with him and their own Imams [May Allah have mercy on their souls]


According to the Shiite belief, Allah granted Imam Ali the Wilayaah. For this reason the Prophet appointed Imam Ali as his successor. He made this declaration during the Ghadeer Kum event. If this was true then Imam Ali should have been firm and pleased with the duty God had prescribed to him. Ironically we find in Najhul Balagha that Imam Ali did not wish to lift the responsibility of leading the Ummah:

" I praise God for what He has ordained ..."By Allah, I had no liking for the caliphate nor any interest in government, but you yourselves invited me to it and prepared me for it." [Najhul Balagha ,sermon 204]

Al kulyani reported that Jabir asked Abu Ja`far: "Why `Ali ibn Abi Talib was named Amir-ul-Mumineen?" Abu Ja`far replied : "Allah named him so, and He revealed in His Book " And (remember) when your Lord brought forth from the Children of Adam, from their loins, their seed and made them testify as to themselves (saying): Am I not your Lord, Muhammad my messenger and `Ali Amir-ul-Mumineen ?..." (AlKafi vol.1 p.412)

Ecveryone know that "Muhammad my messenger and `Ali Amir-ul-Mumineen" is not part of the Quranic verse [Quran 7:172], but as you just read, Al Kulyani narrated in his book AlKafi that the Infallible Imam -according to Shia- (Abu Ja`far) said that the verse [Quran 7:172] was revealed by Allah with "Muhammad my messenger and `Ali Amir-ul-Mumineen". Doesn't that exhibit that Imam Abu Jafar is making a mistake?

"Narrated to us my father [ra] saying: Narrated Ahmad bin Idris saying: Narrated to me Muhammad bin Ahmad, from Musa bin Omar, from Abdallah bin Jablah, from Hanan bin Sudair who said: I entered on Abu Abdallah [as] [Jaffar as Sadiq] [as] wearing a black shoe, and he said: Why are you wearing a black shoe? Did you not know there are three characteristics in it? The narrator said: I said, what are they, may I be your ransom? He [as] said: It weakens your vision, loosens your penis and brings you depression. On top of that, it is part of the arrogant apparel. Wear the yellow shoes, for in it is three characteristics. The narrator said: I said, what are they? He [as] said: It sharpens the vision, strengthens the penis and puts away the depression, and furthermore, it is part of the Prophets [as] apparel". al-Khisaal: Ibn Babawaih al-Qummi, Chapter of the Three, narration 50, p.99 * Similar reports are found in al-Kafi(fil-Furoo'): al-Kulainy, Kitaab: AzZay wat-Tajammul (Apparel & Beautification), Chapter: Shoe Colors, vol.6, p.465, narrations: 1, 2 & 4

This statement has nothing scientific. Either all those who wear black shoes are on medication or the Imam doesn't know what he is talking about

"Narrated Muhammad, from Ahmad bin Muhammad, from Ali bin al-Hakam, from Abdul-Rahman al-'Azramy, from Abu Abdullah [as] said: Amirul-Mu'mineen (Ali) [as] said: There are servant (men) of Allah who carry in their loins uteruses like those of women. (Abu Abdullah) Said: He was asked: Then Why they don't get pregnant? He (Ali) said: Because it is (placed) upside down. They also have glands in their anuses like that of the camel, if erupted they erupt with it, and if it cooled down, they cool down with it." al-Kafi (fil Furoo'): al-Kulainy, Book of Nikaah, Chapter: Who Let Others Sexually Molest Him, vol.5, p.549, narration 3.

Usool al- Kafi that is a collection narrations and traditions attributed to the Shiite Imams, Ahlul Bayt and the Prophet. The author of this compilation is Mr. Muhammad ibn Yaqoob al-Kulyanee who is regarded Thiqaat al-Islam by Shiite scholars. Some Shi'ites scholars believe usool al kafi was presented to the legendary Imam Qaem who liked it and said: "It suffices our Shi'ites" (al-Tharee'ah ela Tasaneef al-Shi'a: Agha Buzurg al-Tahraani; vol.17, p.245 )

Ironically we find Mr. Mulla Baqir Majlisi stating in his commentary on al-Kafi, named Mir'at al-'Uqul, that 9,485 out of the 16,121 narrations in al-Kafi are unreliable! Now here we reach two conclusions, either Imam Qaem made a mistake to authenticate a book, 60% of whose contents would later be discovered to be unreliable or Mr. Mulla Baqir Majlisi (the most reliable and respected Shia Scholars ever existed) did not know what he was talking about.

Ironically we find the Mulla Baqir slanders Ali, Fatima and the Prophet in such disgusting ways: It was narrated that [Imam] Ja`far Ibn Muhamad said : The prophet Muhammad p.b.u.h used to put his face between the breasts of [his daughter] Fatima before going to sleep" (Bihaar al-Anwar, vol. 43, p. 78)

Ali Ibn Abi Talib said that he once slept with the prophet Muhammad p.b.u.h and his wife Ayesha in one bed, and under one cover, then the prophet woke up to pray, and left them together [Ali and Ayesha] in the same bed, under the same cover" (Bihaar al-Anwar vol. 40, p. 2)

Only a Satanic filth who believes in those narrations would compile and report them. We would not stop but we would like to go even further in showing more absurdities!

Allah [swt] said, in several places in His Glorious Book: 24:30 Say to the believing men that they should lower their gaze and guard their modesty: that will make for greater purity for them: and Allah is well acquainted with all that they do yet we read in the authentic al-Kafi: "Narrated Muhammad bin Yahya, from Ahmad bin Muhammad, from Ali bin al-Hakam, from Ali bin Suwaid said: I said to Abu al-Hasan: I have the problem of looking at the pretty woman, so I (keep) looking at her. He said: Laa Ba's (No Problem) if Allah knows that your intention is true, but beware of Zina, it causes the blessings and faith to perish (al-Kafi (fil Furoo') al-Kulainy, Book of Nikaah, Chapter of Zina, vol.5, p.542, narration 6.)

so according to this narration Gazing lewdly at women is okay. What is more Ironic and funny is that the prominent and respected Ayatollah Fadallah of Lebanon gave a fatwa permitting to gaze lewdly on naked women!!!!!

Ayatollah Fadhallah of Lebanon states in his book an-nikah vol.1, p. 66 that if the woman comes out with a swimsuit then it is permitted to look at her..........and regarding the same matter the permission also includes gazing at the "Auwra" when the woman exposes it, just like in some nude districts or at swimming spots in the beach in some countries.

The Shiite authentic works also permits homosexuality and sodomy: "(Narrated) Muhammad bin Yahya, from Ahmad bin Muhammad, from Muhammad bin Yahya, from Talha bin Zaid, from Abu Abdullah [as] said: The Messenger of Allah [pbuh] said: Whoever voluntarily let others sexually molest him, Allah will invest him with women's lust." [al-Kafi (fil Furoo') al-Kulainy, Book of Nikaah, Chapter: Who Let Others Sexually Molest Him, vol.5, p.549, narration 1.]

"(Narrated) Ali bin Ibraaheem from his father from al-Nufaly from As-Sukoony from (Imam) Abu Abdallah [as] said: Amierul-Mu'mineen (Ali) [as] said: (al-Luwaat ma doon ad-dubur, wad-dubur huwal-kufr) Sodomy is in (anything) other than dubur (anal sex), for dubur [has multi meanings] is actually the Kufr (disbelief)". The commentator on al-Kafi wrote: "It is possible to understand (from the statement) that Sodomizing (a man) is permissible" al-Kafi (fil Furoo'): Book of Marriage: Chapter of Sodomy, narration 3, vol.5, p.544

"(Narrated) Muhammad bin Yahya , from Ahmad bin Muhammad, from Ali bin al-Hakam said: I heard Safwaan bin Yahya saying: I said to (Imam) al-Rida : a man among your followers requested me to ask you about a matter, which he feared and embarrassed to ask you (directly). He said: What is it? I said: For the man to use the woman's anus. He said: He may. I said: Do you personally do that? He said: We do not do that." al-Kafi (fil Furoo'): al-Kulainy, Book of Nikaah, Chapter: Women's anuses, vol.5, p.540, narration 2.

Comments: Typical Hypocrisy condemned by Allah [swt] when He said:61:03-04 ...Why say ye that which ye do not? Grievously hateful is it in the sight of Allah that ye say that which ye do not. And is typical to the Devil Iblis' behavior 59:16 Like Satan when he says to man "disbelieve": but when (man) disbelieves, Satan says: I am free of thee: I do fear Allah, the Lord of the Worlds.

"(Narrated) al-Hussain bin Ali bin Yaqteen said: I asked Abul-Hassan about the permissibility for the man to have anal sex with women, he said: It was made halal (permissible) in the Book of Allah, when (Prophet) Lot said: 11:78 Here are my daughters, they are purer for you and he knew it was not the vagina they were after." [Tafseer al-Ayyashi, vol.1, p.157; Bihaar al-Anwaar vol.21, p.98; Tafseer al-Burhaan vol.2, p.230]

Narrated Abdullah bin Abi Ya'foor: I asked Abu Abdullah about approaching women thru their anus, he said: No Problem. He then recited: 2:223 Your women are as tilth unto you, so approach your tilth when (or how) ye will ." [Tafseer al-Ayyashi, vol.1, p.110; Bihaar al-Anwaar Baqir al-Majlisi, vol.23, p.98; al-Burhaan fee Tafseer al-Qur'an: Hashim al-Bahraani, vol.1, p.219; Wasaa'il al-Shi'a: al-Hur al-Amily, vol.3, chpater 73: An-Nikaah wa Aadabuh]

Abi Hamza reports that he said to imam jaffar as sadiq that some of his fellows fabricate regarding those who preceded them. Upon that Imam Jaffar told him to stop taking about them, for the whole mankind except their Shia, are children of adultery (or in other words they are illegitimates)! (Usool al-Kafi, vol.8)

It was narrated that [Imam] Abu Abdullah said : No infant is born but a certain Satan is in his presence. If Allah knew that he would be of our Shiia, He protects him from that Satan, if he wouldn't be of our Shiia, Satan sticks his finger in his anus, thus becomes a catamite, If it was [the infant] a female, he sticks his finger in her vagina, thus becomes a whore. Allah then afterwards clear what He desire or affirm, for with Him is the book of Knowledge." (Tafseer al-Ayyashi, p. 218 ,Bihaar al-Anwaar, vol.2 p. 1319 ,Tafseer al-Burhaan, vol. 2, p. 300)

While Allah [swt] says: 49:13. O Mankind, We created you from a single (pair) of a male and female, and made you into nations and tribes, that ye may know each others. Verily the most honored of you in the sight of Allah is (he who is) the most righteous of you", we find that those "Infallible" , who are the Deputies of Allah, preach racism in its ugliest form. While the following reports are sad, yet you will find them funny, so here we go:

"(Narrated) Ali bin Ibrahim, from Haroon bin Muslim, from Mas'adah bin Ziyad, from Abu Abdullah [as] said: Amirul-Mu'mineen (Ali) [as] said: Beware of marrying the Negros (zunj) for they are a distorted creation." al-Kafi (fil Furoo'): Book of Nikah, Chapter: Whom (the Imam) Disliked for Marriage Amongst the Kurdish, Negros and Others, vol. 5, p. 352

Narrated Ali bin Ibrahim, from Ismael bin Muhammad al-Makki, from Ali bin al-Husain, from 'Amr bin Othman, from al-Husain bin Khalid, from whom he mentioned from Abu Ar-Rabi' al-Shami said: Abu Abdullah [as] said to me: Do not buy anyone who is a negro, but if you must, then (buy) the Nubians, for they are amongst those whom Allah the Exalted said about them: 5.14 From those too, who call themselves Christians, We did take a covenant, but they forgot a good part of the Message that was sent them . Surely, a time will come when they will remember that portion, and when the Qa'im (Mahdi) arise, a group of them will come to his support, but never marry anyone of the Kurdish (people) for they are part of the Jinn (demons) whom the screen was lifted from them" Ibid,

(Narrated) Several of our fellows from Sahl bin Ziyad, from Musa bin Ja'far, from 'Amr bin Sa'eed, from Muhammad bin Abdillah al-Hashimi, from Ahmad bin Yousuf, from Ali bin Dawood al-Haddaad, from Abu Abdullah [as] said: Marry not from the Negros nor the Khazar, for they have uteruses indicate they are unfaithful. He [as] further said: India, Sind and Qind not a single one of them is smart, meaning Qandaharis Ibid,

"Narrated to us Ali bin Ahmad bin Abdullah bin Ahmad bin Abi Abdillah al-Barqi: Narrated my father, from his grandfather Ahmad bin Abi Abdillah, from his father, from Muhammad bin Abi Omair, from more than one person from the Truthful Ja'far bin Muhammad from his father, from his forefathers, peace be on them, said: One of the companions of Amirul-mu'mineen (Ali) complained to him his women. He [as] thus stood to address the public saying: O people, Obey not the women in any case, nor trust them with money, nor let them be in charge of the children, for if they are left to do what pleases them, they will lead (you) to troubles and aggress the rights of the lords. We found them to be unhesitant when they are in need, impatient when their (sexual) lust at peak, wasteful spending is part of them even if they are old, and self admiring follows them even at their senior age. They don't appreciate the "much" when they are prevented the "little". They forget the good and recall the bad. They rush to falsehood, insist on arrogance and follow Satan. So deal with them at any how, address them well that their deeds be well (as a result). al-Amaali: Ibn Babawaih al-Qummi, the 37th council, narration No. 6, p.172

Narrated few of our friends on the authority of Ahmad bin Abi Abdillah, from his father, from Wahab, from (Imam) Abu Abdullah [as] said: Amirul-Mu'mineen (Ali) [as] said: Men were created from Earth, and all they care for is the land. As for the woman, she was created from the man, and all she cares for is men, O Men, lock up your women". al-Kafi ( fil Furoo' ): al-Kulainy, Kitaab al-Nikah, Chapter What's Recommended for Women Who Reached pubery...; vol.5, p.337,

Narrated Muhammad bin Omar bin Salamah bin al-Baraa' al-Hafiz al-Baghdadi: Narrated to us Ahmad bin Abdallah al-Thaqafi Abul-Abbas saying: Narrated to us Issa bin Muhammad al-Katib saying: Narrated to me al-Madayini from Ghiyath bin Ibrahim from the Truthful Ja'far bin Muhammad from his father from his grandfather, peace be on them, said: Ali bin Abi Talib [as] said: The brains of women are in their beauty, and the beauty of men is in their brains". al-Amaali: Ibn Babawaih al-Qummi, the 40th Council, narration No. 9, p.189

Narrated Muhammad bin Ali Majilwaih: Narrated to us Muhammad bin Yahya al-'Attaar saying: Narrated to us Sahl bin Ziyad al-Adami saying: Narrated to me Othman bin Issa from Khalid bin Nujaih from Abu Abdallah [as] saying: Bad luck was discussed in his presence, he [as] thus said: Bad luck are to be found in three things: in the woman, vehicle (horse, mule, camel, donkey, etc) and house. As for the bad luck in the woman, it is due to her high dowery and her disobedience to her husband, the vehicle is due to its attitude, and the house is due to its narrowness, its bad neighbor and its defects". Al-Amaali: Ibn Babawaih al-Qummi, 42nd Council, Narration No.7, p.199, and in his al-Khisaal, Chapter of the Three, narration 53,p. 100 [A shorter version of this narration is also found in al-Kafi (fil Furoo'): al-Kulainy, Book of Nikaah, Chapter: Nawadir, vol.5, p. 567, narration 51]

Narrated to us Ahmad bin Muhammad bin Yahya al-'Attaar saying: Narrated to us my father from Muhammad bin al-Husain bin Abil-Khattab from Muhammad bin Sinaan, from Abi al-Jarood from Abu Ja'far al-Baqir [as] from his father, from his grandfather [as] saying: Amirul-Mu'mineen (Ali) [as] said: He who places himself in a suspicious position, let him not blame who misjudges him; and he who conceals his secret holds the choice. Any conversation surpasses two (people) will be spread around. Think well of your brother until you see of him otherwise, and think well of a word said by your brother if it is possible to be interpreted as such. Choose the truthful brothers and make lots of them, for they are your ornament in times of peace and your fort in times of need. Consult in your affairs those who fear Allah, and love the brothers according to their level of righteousness. Try to avoid the bad women, and ever be watchful of the best of them, if they enjoined good on you, disobey them so they won't have a hope to have you obey them in that which is no good". Al-Amaali: Ibn Babawaih al-Qummi, 50th Council, Narration No.8, p.250

Narrated to us Muhammad bin Musa bin al-Mutawakkil [ra] saying: Narrated to us Abdullah bin Ja'far al-Humairi, from al-Fadl bin 'Aamir, from Musa bin al-Qasim al-Bajaliy, from Thuraih al-Maharibiy, from Abu Abdullah [as] from his forefathers [as] saying: The Messenger of Allah [sawa] said: Three (types of people) if you don't wrong them, they will still wrong you: The low class, your wife and your servant". al-Khisaal: Ibn Babawaih al-Qummi, Chapter of the Three, narration 15, p.86

Narrated to us my father [ra] saying: Narrated to us Sa'd bin Abdallah, from Ahmad bin al-Husain bin Sa'eed, from Abu al-Husain al-Hadramiy, from Musa bin al-Qasim al-Bajaliy, from Jameel bin Darraj, from Muhammad bin Sa'eed, from al-Muhariby, from Ja'far bin Muhammad, from his father, from his forefathers, from Ali [as] saying: The Messenger of Allah [saw] said: Three (type of situations) are good lie in them: Trickery in a war, promising your wife, and reconciliation between people. There are three (types of situations) where telling the truth becomes ugly: snitching, telling the man something he may dislike about his wife, and to disbelieve the man over the rumor. He further said: And there are three (types of people) sitting with them kills the heart: sitting with the low class, talking to women, and sitting with the wealthy people". al-Khisaal: Ibn Babawaih al-Qummi, Chapter of the Three, narration 20, p.87

Several of our friends narrated, from Ahmad bin Muhammad bin Issa, from al-Husain bin Sa'eed, from al-Husain bin 'Alwaan, from Sa'd bin Tareef, from al-Asbagh bin Nabatah said: Amirul-Mu'mineen (Ali) [as] said: Allah created the lust in ten parts, and has placed nine parts in women and one part for men. If it wasn't for the shyness that Allah gave them according to their lust parts, each man would have had nine women hanging to him." al-Kafi (fil Furoo'): al-Kulainy, Kitaab al-Nikah, Chapter The Virtues of Women's Lust Over The Men's, vol.5, p.337, narration 1.; al-Khisaal: Ibn Babawaih al-Qummi, Chapter of the Ten, Section: Lust Is Ten Parts, p.338,

Several of our fellows narrated, from Ahmad bin Muhammad bin Khalid, from Ahmad bin Muhammad bin Abi Nasr, from whoever narrated to him, from Ishaaq bin Ammaar said: (Imam) Abu Abdullah [as] said: Verily, Allah made for the woman the patience of ten men, but when it hits her, she gets the lust power of ten men." al-Kafi (fil Furoo'): al-Kulainy, Kitaab al-Nikah, Chapter The Virtues of Women's Lust Over The Men's, vol.5, p.337, narration 2; al-Khisaal: Ibn Babawaih alQummi Chapter of The Ten, Section: Woman Has Patience of Ten Men, p.339,

I heard him (i.e the Imam) saying: Women were given an intercourse power of twelve (men) and the patience of twelve (men)." Ibid, p. 339,


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