Thursday, January 15, 2009

Dr. Zakir Naik, Quran, Sunnah and Ahl Al Bayt.

Dr. Zakir Naik, Indian Muslim Scholar


New Age Islam wrote:

Unity among Muslims and Dr. Zakir Naik’s Evil: A Point of View by Dr. Maulana Abbas Ali Naqvi Translation from Urdu by: Syed Raihan Ahmad Nezami

http://www.newageislam.com/NewAgeIslamArticleDetail.aspx?ArticleID=1077

I would like to draw your attention, that you are always talking about what others have rejected or accepted, without giving any hint as to what you follow. You are an analyst as per your own declaration in some of your earlier posts, but an analysis is complete only when you sum it up with a conclusion, specially that of your own.Janab Amir Moghul...salaam:in your hurry to reply, you missed my querry, what is your belief? where do you stand in all this? I did not ask you to explain to me the meaning of kalma, we both are way ahead of our Madarsa classes, I simply asked you whether you are a Wahabi? In your haste to copy and paste you missed my unambiguous question or you may have deliberately avoided the answer, as most Wahabis do , ... don’t know what they are ashamed of? Whatever, the answer from you is still awaited.Instead of answering my question you again quoted something out of context or should I say misquoted, "I left upon you two things of which you will never go astray after them: The Book of Allaah and my Sunnah. They will never be separated until they return to me at the Haud (the Pond)." [Saheeh Al-Jaami'] (Amir Moghul) The actual quote is “the book of Allah and my Ahley bait” not ‘sunnah’ as you have conveniently fitted to suit yourself’ I wonder why some people have been labeling you as a concoctor of religious material. Whatever, the answer from you is still awaited.Instead of answering my question you again quoted something out of context or should I say misquoted, "I left upon you two things of which you will never go astray after them: The Book of Allaah and my Sunnah. They will never be separated until they return to me at the Haud (the Pond)." [Saheeh Al-Jaami'] (Amir Moghul) The actual quote is “the book of Allah and my Ahley bait” not ‘sunnah’ as you have conveniently fitted to suit yourself’ I wonder why some people have been labeling you as a concoctor of religious material.[Humraz]
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Muawiya, the usurper and father of Yazeed LA had set up a cottage industry for manufacturing wrong hadith and you know why. Because he wanted to bring Prophet SAW to his level as written by prominent Sunni scholar Maulana Shibli Nomani. That was Muawiya 1370 years ago and today it is you and the Saudi brand of Islam,When I quote about Abu Huraira and how badly he was beaten by Caliph Umar (RA) on the back till he bled you ask for sources and all the sites are mentioned and many of them belong to your school and your land. [Faraz]
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Dear Humraz Sahab and Faraz Sahab,

Answers are as under:

My belief regarding these controversies is as under [and I am forcing nobody to adopt what I believe]

Ahl Al-Bait, 'Ummahat Al-Mu'minin and As-Sahabah (The Prophet's Family, The Prophet's Wives and the Companions of the Prophet) As-Sahabah (The Prophets Companions)

Among the fundamentals of the people of the Sunnah and the community is purity of heart and tongue toward the Companions of the Messenger of Allah (peace be upon him) just as Allah has described them:

"Those who came after them ( the Sahabah ) say: 'Our Lord forgive us. Forgive our brethren who preceded us in faith. Purify our hearts of any rancor toward the believers. Our Lord, You are Gentle, Compassionate." (al-Hashr 59/10)

Obey the saying of the Prophet (peace be upon him):

"Do not revile my companions. By (Allah) in Whose Hand my soul is!, if any one of you spends gold (piled up) like (mount) 'Uhud it will not equal a pint of any one of them, nor its half." (al-Bukhari, Muslim, Abu-Dawud, at-Tirmidhi Ibn Majah, Ibn Hanbal)

(The people of the Sunnah ) accept what the Qur'an, the Sunnah , and the consensus brought them of the Sahabah's virtues and high ranks; So they prefer those who spent (their wealth) and fought before the victory -which is the treaty of al-Hudaybiyah [1] - over those who spent and fought after it.

They prefer the Muhajirun (Immigrants) over the Ansar (Helpers). They believe that Allah said to the people of Badr - they were over three hundred-: "Do whatever you wish, I have already forgiven you." ( Abu Dawud )

And "they believe that no one who pledged allegiance to the Prophet (peace be upon him) under the tree 36 will enter Hell" ( Muslim ), as the Prophet (peace be upon him) had declared; but that Allah was pleased with them and they with Him - and they were more than one thousand and four hundred. They assign to Paradise whoever the Messenger of Allah (peace be upon him) assigned there such as the ten, and Thabit Ibn Qays Ibn Shammas , and others of amongst the Sahabah .

They accept what has been reported continuously from the Prince of the Believers, ' Ali Ibn Abi Talib (may Allah be pleased with him), and from others, that the best men of this ' Ummah after its Prophet are: Abu Bakr ; then ' Umar ; third, ' Uthman , and fourth, ' Ali Ibn Abi Talib (may Allah be pleased with them all). All Traditions have indicated, and all Sahabah (may Allah be pleased with them all) have agreed upon giving priority to ' Uthman out of regard for his allegiance ( al-Bai'ah ), although some of the people of the Sunnah are disputing over whether ' Uthman or ' Ali (may Allah be pleased with both of them) has the priority, after they (the people of the Sunnah ) had agreed upon giving priority to Abu Bakr and ' Umar . Some people gave the priority to ' Uthman and kept silent and considered ' Ali to be the fourth. However, some people preferred ' Ali . And some remained neutral. But the people of the Sunnah settled on preferring ' Uthman , even though this matter – the matter of ' Uthman and ' Ali - is not of the fundamentals. The majority of the people of the Sunnah do not consider disagreeing in this matter as being misled. Rather, it is in the matter of the "Question of the Caliphate" where they consider the disagreeing person to be misled. Ahl as-Sunnah believe that the Caliph after the Messenger of Allah (peace be upon him) is Abu Bakr ; then ' Umar ; then ' Uthman , then ' Ali , and that whoever contests the Caliphate of any one of these Imams is indeed more lost than an ass.

Ahl as-Sunnah should not deal with what happened between the Sahabah of the disagreement, and they must say: Part of the Traditions which are narrated about their faults are untrue, and some of them added to or omitted from, or distorted; The part of them which is true, they are excused from, because either they expressed their personal opinion and were right, or they expressed their personal opinion and were wrong.

Ahl as-Sunnah do not think that each of the Sahabah is infallible of committing grave sins or light sins, but that they are liable to commit general offenses. Nevertheless, to them belongs priority in accepting Islam and in doing good deeds which qualify them for forgiveness of what they may have committed, to the extent that their offenses are forgiven. The same offenses will not be forgiven of those who come after them because they ( as-Sahabah ) have a credit of good deeds which erase the bad deeds, a credit the generations after them do not have. It has been confirmed by the saying of the Messenger of Allah (peace be upon him):

"That they are the best of all generations," (al-Bukhari and Muslim) and: "That the pint of charity any one of them might have given is better than a pile of gold the size of Mount 'Uhud if it is given by anyone who comes after them." (al-Bukhari and Muslim)

Moreover, if anyone of them ( as-Sahabah ) committed any act of offense, without doubt he repented from it, or he did good deeds which wiped that offense from him, or he has been forgiven for the virtue of accepting Islam from its start or by intercession of Muhammad (peace be upon him) since they are deserving most his intercession, or a calamity inflicted upon him in this world which covered for that offense. But if this is the case in actual offenses, what about matters in which they were mujtahids (formulating independent decision in legal or theological matters)? If they were correct in their ijtihad they will receive double reward and if they missed they will receive one reward and the missing is forgiven for them.

Furthermore, the objectionable amount of their deeds is negligible in comparison to their virtues, their merit is in belief in Allah and His Messenger, the jihad in His Path, the Hijrah (emigration) from Makkah to al-Madinah , the support for the Prophet and the faith, the valuable knowledge and the good deeds. Whoever studies the life of the Sahabah objectively, with insight and with what Allah bestowed upon them of virtues, will no doubt discover that they are the best of all people after the Prophet (peace be upon him), that there never was and never will be their like and that indeed they are the choicest of the generations of the ' Ummah which is in itself the best of all nations and the most honorable in the eyes of Allah ,The Exalted.

Ahl Al-Bait (The Prophets Family)

Ahl as-Sunnah should love the Prophet's family, give them support, and honor the Prophet's will in regard to them, as he said at Ghadir al-Khum : "I ask you by Allah to take care of my family I ask you by Allah to take care of my family." ( Muslim )

[The Prophet] (peace be upon him) said to his uncle al-Abbas when he complained to him that some men of Quraysh resent Banu Hashim (the Prophet's clan):

"By (Allah) in Whose Hands my soul is! They will never be believers until they love you for the sake of my relationship to you." (Reported by Ahmad Ibn Hanbal and others)

The Prophet (peace be upon him) said:

"Indeed, Allah chose the sons of isma'il, and from them He chose Kinanah, and from Kinanah He chose Quraish, and from Quraish he chose Banu Hashim, and from Banu Hashim He chose me." (Reported by Muslim and Ibn Hanbal)

'Ummahat Al-Mu'minin (The Prophets Wives)

[ Ahl as-Sunnah ] should give support to the wives of the Messenger of Allah (peace be upon him), the Mothers of the Believers, and they should believe that they will be his wives in the Hereafter, especially Khadijah (may Allah be pleased with her) the mother of most of his children, and the first person to believe in him and give him support, and he respected her very highly. And [ A'ishah ], as-Siddiqah , the daughter of [ Abu Bakr ] as-Siddiq (may Allah be pleased with her and her father), of whom the Prophet (peace be upon him) said:

"A'ishah's superiority over women is like the superiority of ath-Tharid (a dish of sopped bread, meat and broth) over the rest of the food." (Reported by al-Bukhari and Muslim)

[ Ahl as-Sunnah ] should forsake the Rawafid doctrine [Extremist Shias] , those who hate the Prophet's Companions and revile them.

They should forsake the Nawasib doctrine (those who harm the Prophet's Family verbally or actually).

Reference:

1 - In the year 628 C.E ., the Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) led a band of believers to perform ' umrah (smaller pilgrimage) to Makkah , but the non-believers of Makkah prevented him and his followers from entering Makkah by blocking their way with a large army at a place called al-Hudaibiyah located nine miles out of Makkah . As a result, a war almost broke out between the two parties, but negotiations took place instead. The Prophet (peace be upon him) sent ' Uthman (may Allah be pleased with him) to Makkah to represent him at the negotiations, but he did not return for three days and rumors reached the Prophet and his followers that ' Uthman was killed by the Makkans . Although unprepared for battle, the Prophet could not leave the Makkans unpunished for their treacherous act. So, he assembled his followers and, standing under a large tree, they pledged allegiance to him to fight the Makkans . Therefore, Allah praised them in the Qur'an :

"Lo! Those who swear allegiance unto you ( Muhammad ), swear allegiance only unto Allah. The Hand of Allah is above their hands..." (al-Fat-h 48/10) In the same chapter, verse 18, Allah expressed His pleasure with the believers who pledged allegiance to the Prophet (peace be upon him) under the tree in Hudaibiyah , He said : "Allah was well pleased with the believers when they swore allegiance unto you beneath the tree, and He knew what was in their hearts, and He sent down peace of reassurance on them, and has rewarded them with a near victory."
2 - Rawafid or Rafidah is one of the names given to the Shi'ah . Al-Ash'ari explains this denomination as those who rejected the caliphate of Aba Bakr and ' Umar.

3 - Nawasib is a group of people who do not like 'Ali or his family; they are the counterpart of the Rawafid .

Regarding my belief:

The Religion before Allah is Islam [AL-E-IMRAN (THE FAMILY OF 'IMRAN, THE HOUSE OF 'IMRAN) Chapter 3 - Verse 19]

And hold fast, all of you together, to the cable of Allah, and do not separate. [AL-E-IMRAN (THE FAMILY OF 'IMRAN, THE HOUSE OF 'IMRAN) Chapter 3 - Verse 103]

And be ye not as those who separated and disputed after the clear proofs had come unto them. For such there is an awful doom, [AL-E-IMRAN (THE FAMILY OF 'IMRAN, THE HOUSE OF 'IMRAN) Chapter 3 - Verse 105]

And obey Allah and His messenger, and dispute not one with another lest ye falter and your strength depart from you; but be steadfast! Lo! Allah is with the steadfast. [AL-ANFAL (SPOILS OF WAR, BOOTY) Chapter 8 - Verse 46]

Turning unto Him (only); and be careful of your duty unto Him and establish worship, and be not of those who ascribe partners (unto Him); Of those who split up their religion and became schismatics, each sect exulting in its tenets. [AL-ROOM (THE ROMANS, THE BYZANTINES) Chapter 30 - Verse 31 and 32]

Lo! As for those who sunder their religion and become schismatics, no concern at all hast thou with them. Their case will go to Allah, Who then will tell them what they used to do. [AL-ANAAM (CATTLE, LIVESTOCK) Chapter 6 - Verse 159]

And whatsoever the messenger giveth you, take it. And whatsoever he forbiddeth, abstain (from it). And keep your duty to Allah. Lo! Allah is stern in reprisal. [AL-HASHR (EXILE, BANISHMENT) Chapter 59 - Verse 7]

O ye who believe! Obey Allah, and obey the messenger and those of you who are in authority; and if ye have a dispute concerning any matter, refer it to Allah and the messenger if ye are (in truth) believers in Allah and the Last Day. That is better and more seemly in the end. [AN-NISA (WOMEN) Chapter 4 Verse 59]

'A'isha reported that Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon him) went out one norning wearing a striped cloak of the black camel's hair that there came Hasan b. 'Ali. He wrapped hitn under it, then came Husain and he wrapped him under it along with the other one (Hasan). Then came Fatima and he took her under it, then came 'Ali and he also took him under it and then said: Allah only desires to take away any uncleanliness from you, O people of the household, and purify you (thorough purifying) [Sahih Muslim]

Prophet Mohammad [PBUH] said, upon him blessings and peace: I have left among you two matters by holding fast to which, you shall never be misguided: the Book of Allah and the Sunna of His Prophet.

[Ibn `Abd al-Barr in al-Tamhid, Ibn Nasr al-Marwazi in al-Sunna, al-Hakim in his Mustadrak, al-Bayhaqi in al-Sunan al-Kubra, Malik in his Muwatta, al-Daraqutni in his Sunan, Ibn Hazm in al-Ihkam, al-Suyuti declared it hasan in al-Jami` al-Saghir, al-Suyuti in Miftah al-Janna]

Prophet Mohammad [PBUH] said : "Indeed those from before you from the People of the Book divided into seventy-two groups. And, indeed, this group (Muslims) will divide into seventy-three. Seventy-two groups will be in the Hellfire and one of them will be in Paradise. And it is the Jamaa'ah (group)." [Musnad Ahmed Bin Hanbal]

The Messenger of Allaah said: "I counsel you to have Taqwaa of Allaah and to hear and obey, even if an Abyssinian slave were to command you. For, verily, whoever amongst you lives (to grown old), he will see many differences. So stick to my Sunnah and the Sunnah of the rightly guided khaleefahs. Cling tightly onto it and hold onto it with your molar teeth. And beware of newly invented matters. For, indeed, every newly invented matter is an innovation, and every innovation is a thing that leads astray, and everything that leads astray is in the Hellfire." [Abu Dawood]

And in another narration, he said: "Everyone of them in the Hellfire, except for one group that which I and my companions are upon." [Sunan At-Tirmidhee]

Ibn Mas'ood said: "The Messenger of Allaah drew a line for us and then said: 'This is the Straight Path of Allaah.' And he drew lines on the left and right of it, and then said: 'These are paths of which there is not one except that there is a devil upon it calling towards it.' Then he recited the statements of Allaah [And (He commandeth you, saying): This is My Straight path, so follow it. Follow no other ways, lest ye be parted from his way. This hath He ordained for you, that ye may ward off evil [Surat-ul-Ana' aam 6:153- The Cattle 1:153]. 'And verily, this is My Straight Path, so follow it, and do not follow (other) paths for they will separate you away from His path." [Musnad Ahmad and An-Nasaa'ee].

"I left upon you two things of which you will never go astray after them: The Book of Allaah and my Sunnah. They will never be separated until they return to me at the Haud (the Pond)." [Saheeh Al-Jaami']

The Saved Sects revives the Sunnah of the Messenger in their act of worship, behavior and lifestyles. And due to this, they become strangers among their own people, as the Prophet has informed us would happen with his words: "Indeed Islam began as something strange and it will return to being strange as it began. So Toobaa is for the strangers." And in one narration, he said: "So Toobaa is for the strangers those who correct others when the people have become corrupt." [Muslim]

"There will not cease to be a group from my ummah, dominant upon the truth. The ones who abandon them will not be able to harm them, until the decree of Allaah comes." [Muslim]

The Messenger of Allaah said: "There will not cease to be a group from my ummah dominant upon the truth. Those who abandon them will not be able to harm them until the Decree of Allah comes." [Muslim]

My beliefs and views on the differences amongst the Companions [May Allah be pleased with all of them] of the Prophet Mohammad [PBUH] is as under:

Since all of them have passed away and are with Allah so it would be better for us to leave them and their affairs alone and even if we discuss them then we must discuss with utmost care and respect because Allah says:

Those are a people who have passed away; theirs is that which they earned and yours that which ye earn. And ye will not be asked of what they used to do. [AL-BAQARA (THE COW) Chapter 2 - Verse 141]

Dear Humraz Sahab,

I dont believe in Sects and I have already made it very clear that I am a Muslim.

True Muslims should be content with the name "Muslims given to them by Almighty Allah as He says:

And strive for Allah with the endeavour which is His right. He hath chosen you and hath not laid upon you in religion any hardship; the faith of your father Abraham (is yours). He hath named you Muslims of old time and in this (Scripture), that the messenger may be a witness against you, and that ye may be witnesses against mankind. So establish worship, pay the poor-due, and hold fast to Allah. He is your Protecting friend. A blessed Patron and a blessed Helper! [AL-HAJJ (THE PILGRIMAGE) Chapter 22 - Verse 78]

By the way you you must consult the Hadiths before opening your mouth because both the Hadiths i.e. Quran and Ahl Al Bayt and Quran and Sunnah are confirmed, verified and authentic and I believe in both. [I can quote the references with chain of narration]

Janab Amir Moghul...salaam:in your hurry to reply, you missed my querry, what is your belief? where do you stand in all this? [Humraz]

Dear Humrazz Sahab,

To make myself more clear:

1 - Idol Worshipping and Grave Worshipping amongst Muslims

http://chagataikhan.blogspot.com/2008/11/idol-worshipping-and-grave-worshipping.html

3 - Makkah to Data Darbar Lahore [Sufi Shrine in Pakistan]

http://chagataikhan.blogspot.com/2008/10/makkah-to-data-darbar-lahore-sufi.html

Dear Humraz Sahab,

You and other must take back which you have said against Hazrat Abu Huraira [May Allah be pleased with him] and read. May I ask did Hazrat Abu Huraira also concoct these Hadith:

Abu Huraira reported Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying to Hasan: O Allah, behold, I love him. Thou too love him and love one who loves him.[Saheeh Muslim - The Book Pertaining to the Merits of the Companions (Allah Be Pleased With Them) of the Holy Prophet (May Peace Be Upon Him) (Kitab Al-Fada'il Al-Sahabah)]

Abu Huraira reported: I went along with Allalh's Messenger (may peace be upon him) at a time during the day but he did not talk to me and I did not talk to him until he reached Bazar of Banfi Qainuqal. He came back to the tent of Fatima and said: Is the little chap (meaning Hasan) there? We were under the impression that his mother had detained him in order to bathe him and dress him and garland him with a sweet garland. Not much time had passed that he (Hasan) came running until both of them embraced each other, thereupon Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) said: O Allah, I love him; love him Thou and love one who loves him (Hasan). [Saheeh Muslim - The Book Pertaining to the Merits of the Companions (Allah Be Pleased With Them) of the Holy Prophet (May Peace Be Upon Him) (Kitab Al-Fada'il Al-Sahabah)]

Dear Humraz Sahab,

I believe in both the Hadiths Quran and Ahl Al Bayt and Quran and Sunnah. Chain of Narrations and Authenticity are as under:

The hadith in question states that the Prophet said, upon him blessings and peace:

“I have left among you two matters by holding fast to which, you shall never be misguided: the Book of Allah and the Sunna of His Prophet.”

This is narrated from Anas by:

*Abu al-Shaykh in Tabaqat al-Muhaddithin fi Asbahan (4:67 §549);

also from `Amr ibn `Awf by:

*Ibn `Abd al-Barr in al-Tamhid (24:331);

and also from Ibn `Abbâs by:

*Ibn Nasr al-Marwazi (202-294) in al-Sunna (p. 25-26 §68)

*al-Hakim in his Mustadrak (1:93=1990 ed. 1:171 §318) who declared that all its narrators are “agreed upon” meaning in the two books of Sahih

*al-Bayhaqi in al-Sunan al-Kubra (10:114 §20108)

*al-I`tiqad (p. 228) by Malik in his Muwatta’. Ibn `Abd al-Barr narrated its chain in al-Tamhid (24:331) and describes it as “so famous and widespread as a Prophetic report among the people of knowledge” that it can be treated as mass-transmitted (mahfuz, ma`ruf, mashhur `an al-Nabi salla Allahu `alayhi wa-Sallam thamma ahl al-`ilm shuhratan yakadu yustaghna biha `an al-isnad)

*Ibn Hazm who declared it sahih in al-Ihkam (6:243=6:810) even though he is overly strict in his criterion for soundness as stated by Shaykh Ahmad al-Ghumari in his student `Abd Allah al-Talidi’s biographical notes, Darr al-Ghamam al-Raqiq.

Another version states:

“I have left among you two matters by holding fast to which, you shall never be misguided: the Book of Allah and my Sunna. And these two shall never part ways until they show up at the Pond.”

Narrated from Abu Hurayra by:

*Ibn Shahin in al-Targhib fil-Dhikr (2:406 §528) as stated by Ahmad al-Ghumari in al-Mudawi (3:482 §3923)

*al-Hakim in the Mustadrak (1:93=1990 ed. 1:172 §319)

*al-Bayhaqi in al-Sunan al-Kubra (10:114 §20109)

*al-Daraqutni in his Sunan (4:245 §149)

*Abu Bakr al-Shafi`i in the Ghaylaniyyat as stated by al-Suyuti in the Jami` al-Saghir (§3923)

*al-Lalika’i in Sharh Usul I`tiqad Ahl al-Sunna (1:80)

*al-Khatib in al-Jami` li-Akhlaq al-Rawi (1983 ed.1:111=1991 ed. 2:165-166 §89) and al-Faqih
wal-Mutafaqqih (1:94)

*Ibn `Abd al-Barr in al-Tamhid (24:331)

*Ibn Hazm in al-Ihkam (6:243=6:810)

*al-Suyuti declared it hasan in al-Jami` al-Saghir (§3923).

Also narrated mursal from `Urwa as cited by:

*al-Suyuti in Miftah al-Janna (p. 29 §35).

Also narrated mursal through Ibn Ishaq from `Abd Allah ibn Abi Najih by:

*al-Tabari in his Tarikh (2:205-206)

*Ibn Hisham in his Sira (6:8-10).

So there are chains through at least four different Companions corresponding to two versions which have in common the wording: “I have left among you two matters by holding fast to which, you shall never be misguided: the Book of Allah and the Sunna or my Sunna.”

The fact that this wording in the Muwatta’ is enough proof that it is sahih, as further confirmed by Ibn `Abd al-barr’s remarks. Both these sources actually reflect that there is more to Hadith-grading than the mere documentation of chains of transmission.

Imam al-Bukhari narrates over 200 hadiths from Ibn Abi Uways. Over 170 of those are hadiths Ibn Abi Uways narrates from his maternal uncle, Imam Malik. As for his father `Abd Allah Abu Uways, he is one of the narrators of the Sunan and Muslim also uses him in his Sahih. Ibn Hajar, Abu Hatim, and Ibn Ma`in all called him truthful (saduq).

Al-Hakim followed up with another route because it came through another Companion, which strengthens the hadith. Nowhere does he declare the first hadith weak.

Shaykh Abu al-Fadl Ahmad al-Ghumari in his book al-Mudawi li-`Ilal al-Munawi (3:482 §3923) supports the authenticity of this hadith and that his brother, Shaykh `Abd Allah ibn al-Siddiq al-Ghumari, Allah have mercy on both of them, included this hadith among the sound hadiths in his compilation of the sahih and hasan hadiths of Imam al-Suyuti’s al-Jami` al-Saghir which he titled al-Kanz al-Thamin fi Ahadith al-Nabi al-Amin salla Allahu `alayhi wa Sallam. And Allah knows best.

The hadith in question (Quran and Sunnah) is not weak…(and it is narrated by) at least four different Companions …the other hadith (Quran and Ahl al-Bayt) is not mutawatir as I already said…the hadith is NOT mutawatir nor narrated by anywhere near even 10 Sahaba. [Therefore, a similar number of Companions narrated BOTH Hadith, with perhaps only a couple more narrating the Hadith of the Quran and Ahl al-Bayt.]

First of all, the Hadith about the Quran and Ahl al-Bayt is not Mutawattir, nor is the Hadith about Quran and Sunnah considered Dhaeef (weak). Instead, both Hadith are of a very similar calibre. Secondly, we have not abandoned the Hadith about Quran and Ahl al-Bayt nor have we replaced it with the other Hadith. Instead, we believe in both Hadith; the Hadith about Quran and Sunnah was said by the Prophet in front of the larger gathering during his Farewell Sermon, and the Hadith about Quran and Ahl al-Bayt was said by the Prophet in front of the smaller gathering at Ghadir Khumm. This second Hadith was directed towards those of Medinah because it was they who would be tasked with the role of caring for the Prophet’s family after his death.

Shibli Nomani is not a proof [Hujjat] in Islam [if he has really written that what you have quoted above!]. Regarding beating of Hazrat Abu Huraira [May Allah be pleased with him] by Hazrat Omar [May Allah be pleased with him], I will again ask for a Source from where you have quoted the event.

I have a firm belief on Hadith -e-Thaqlayn [Two Weighty Things] and Quran and Sunnah because both the Hadith are correct to the hilt. But you would have to withdraw your comment on Hazrat Abu Huraira [May Allah be pleased with him] because he has also narrated theses two very important Hadiths.

Hazrat Abu Huraira [May Allah be pleased with him] had also narrated two very important Hadiths which Shia often quote 1 - Hadith Thaqalain [Two Weighty Things - Quran and Ahl Al Bayt] 2 - Ghadeer Khum. I wonder did Hazrat Abu Huraira [May Allah be pleased with him] concoct [God Forbid] these Hadith as well.

References:

Subject: Narrators of Hadith-e-Thaqalain

14. Abu Hurayrah, `Abd al­Rahman ibn Sakhr (d. 59/679).

Abu Bakr al­ Bazzaz,

Shams al­ Din al­ Sakhawi,

Jalal al­ Din al­ Suyuti,

Ahmad ibn al­ Fadl ibn Ba Kathir,

Nur al­Din al­ Samhudi,

Mahmud ibn Muhammad al­ Shaykhani al­ Qadiri.

Subject: Narrator of Ghadeer Khum:

Haafiz Abu Bakr Khateeb Baghdadi has narrated this tradition from Abu Huraira [May Allah be pleased with him] in his book of history.

Janab Amir Moghul...salaam:in your hurry to reply, you missed my querry, what is your belief? where do you stand in all this? [Humraz]

Dear Humrazz Sahab,

To make myself even more regarding my belief:

Reality of Sufism - I

http://chagataikhan.blogspot.com/2008/10/reality-of-sufism-i.html

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