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Monday, October 20, 2008

Veracity of Tabari's Islamic History - 50



aijaz alamdar wrote:

Dear Aamir Sahab

Its not necessary that if Naqavi Sahib agree with one Bukhari hadith then he should accept all the ahadith by Bukhari--The way you put this objection reflect your narrow mind & low level of intellect--The word Sahi is not used by shia. Regarding Mauwiah being maloon & should be cursed by Allah & His Angels is not by virtue of one hadith against this maloon ibn-e-maloon- -its history which is consistent with his evil character.

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Dear Alamdar Sahab,

Then why did Hazrat Hassan and Hussein [May Allah be pleased with them] accepted Hazrat Muawiyah [May Allah be pleased with him]'s Khilafa and they were both used to receive very heavy annual amount from Hazrat Muawiyah [May Allah be pleased with him].

You are very fond of History, I will be quoting History. Bukhari's Hadith was sufficient for me that Hazrat Hassan [May Allah be pleased with him] made peace with Hazrat Muawiya [May Allah be pleased with him] and Hussain [May Allah be pleased with him] also accepted that Khilafa.


Shia and Sunni Sources on Hasnain's acceptance of Muawiyah's Khilafa:

[Akhbar Al Tawal Al Denwary page 234, Tabari Page 62 Volume 6, Al Imama Wal Siyasa page 173, Maqtal Abi Mikhnaf page 4 published in Najaf]

Hazrat Muawiya [May Allah be pleased with him]'s Excellent Treatment with Hasan and Hussain [May Allah be pleased with both of them]:

Hussain used to go with Hasan to meet Muawiyah in Damascus and at one stance Muawiyah gifted 2 Million Dirham to both and at anothe ocassion he gifted Hazrat Hasan 4 Million Dirham [Al Bidaya Wal Nihaya by Ibn Kathir Page 150 and Page 127 Volume 8] This narration is confirmed by Ibn Abi Al Hadid (Mutazilli Shia) in his translation of Nehjul Balagha page 823 Volume 2] and this further confirmed by Extremist Shias like Abu Mikhnaf in his book Maqtal Abi Mikhnaf page 7].

Should I quote as to how bravely Hazrat Hussain [May Allah be pleased with him] fought under the command of Yazid Bin Muawiyah [May Allah have mercy on his soul] in Constantinople. I will quote Shia sources of History you praise.


Note: Maqtal Abi Mikhnaf is a book by Abu Mikhnaf specially written on Karbala Tragedy and from Tabari to present day Speakers of Shia Majlis, this book is quoted for narrating the Tragedy of Karbala.

Veracity of Tabari's Islamic History - 39



Faiz wrote:

Salam all,

Ali (ra) charred Abdullah bin Saba to death. Or did he?

If Ali (ra) was one of those who migrated with the Prophet (sws), left his home to support the Prophet (sws), if he was really as pious and knowledgeable and merciful as he is reported to be---then I must say that the story of Abdullah bin Saba is a total hoax and fabrication. To burn people is only Allah’s prerogative.

Irfan
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Dear Sir,

I am giving Hadith and History both and leave it to you to decide what is the truth and what is false?


Narrated 'Ikrima:

Some Zanadiqa (atheists) were brought to 'Ali and he burnt them. The news of this event, reached Ibn 'Abbas who said, "If I had been in his place, I would not have burnt them, as Allah's Apostle forbade it, saying, 'Do not punish anybody with Allah's punishment (fire).' [Chapter Dealing with Apostate : Bukhari].

The Prophet Mohammad (PBUH) once passed by a burnt anthill. When he saw it he asked, “Who has burnt it?” When he was told, he said, “Only the Lord of Fire has the right to punish with fire." [Sunnan Abu Dawud].

Ibn Jareer Tabari in his Histroy says:

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"Tareekh Tabari"

One morning a Khariji name Abd-al-Rahman ibn Ibn Muljam Muradi, attacked Hadhrat Ali [May Allah be pleased with him] when he [May Allah be pleased with him] was leading the Fajr Prayers, and stabbed him with a poisoned sabre.

"Who struck me?" he asked Hazrat Hassan [May Allah be pleased with him]. They at once brought the cruel assassin into the Khalifas presence. Hazrat Ali [May Allah be pleased with him] recognized his assailant, for Ibn Muljam had once worked for him as a servant. It was during that time that the Hazrat Ali [May Allah be pleased with him] had said to Ibn Muljam,: "Ibn Muljam, my end is in your hand."

On that occasion Ibn Muljam had said: "Far be it from me, O Imam. Let my hand wither if I should do such a thing." He had then begged to be put to death.

Hazrat Ali [May Allah be pleased with him] asked Ibn Muljam: "What have I done to you, Ibn Muljam; have I touched your honor, property or person?" Overcome with fear and dread, Ibn Muljam managed to say: "By no means; only the judgement belongs to Allah alone.

Khalifa said: "Your words are true, but your intention is false."

They took Ibn Muljam away and put him in jail under surveillance. Turning to Hazrat Hasan [May Allah be pleased with him] the Khalif said later: "If I recover from this wound it will be my business to deal with him. If I die, kill him with a single stroke of the sword, so that the divine law is carried out. Take care not to kill him with cruelty or torture, for I once heard your grandfather Muhammad (Sall Allahu alaihi wa Aalihi wa Sallim) say: "Do not kill even a rabid dog with torture and pain."

Hazrat Ali [May Allah be pleased with him] could not survive that injury and passed away. Hazrat Hassan and others as mentioned by Tabari killed Ibn Maljam not with one single stroke but very slowly, they cut his hands, then legs and they poked his eyes with hot Iron Rod and after cutting him into many pieces then had Ibn Maljam burnt to ashes.

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