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Monday, February 6, 2012

Mani Shankar Aiyar & Indo-Pakistan Relations & Wahabis/Salafis.


Varanasi also commonly known as Benares or Benaras , is a city situated on the banks of the River Ganges in the Indian state of Uttar Pradesh, 320 kilometres (199 mi) southeast of state capital Lucknow. It is regarded as a holy city by Hindus, Buddhists and Jains. It is one of the oldest continuously inhabited cities in the world and the oldest in India. The Kashi Naresh (Maharaja of Kashi) is the chief cultural patron of Varanasi and an essential part of all religious celebrations. The culture of Varanasi is closely associated with the River Ganges and the river's religious importance. The city has been a cultural and religious centre in North India for several thousand years. The Benares Gharana form of the Indian classical music developed in Varanasi, and many prominent Indian philosophers, poets, writers, and musicians resided or reside in Varanasi. Gautama Buddha gave his first sermon at Sarnath located near Varanasi (Kashi). People often refer to Varanasi as "the city of temples", "the holy city of India", "the religious capital of India", "the city of lights", "the city of learning", and "the oldest living city on planet earth." REFERENCE: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Varanasi

Mani Shankar Aiyar & Indo-Pakistan Relations - 1 (Capital Talk - 2nd Feb 2012)



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tnFSR0J62oU



The original name of Jamiah Salafiah was Al-Jamia-tul-Markazih, which came to be known as Markazi Darul-Uloom in Urdu. In India there are several institutions of various groups of Muslims which represent their own schools of thought. It was not evident from the name of Al-Jamia-tul-Markaziah as to which school of thought it was related with. Therefore, its founders renamed it in such a way so that there could be clear indication towards its purpose. The literal meaning of Salaf is that which has passed, and Salafiah means the followers of Salafi school of thought. They are a special group of the followers of the Prophet, Hazrat Mohammad (P.B.H.), which endeavors to receive Islamic education from its origin and foundation point, and to associate people with that religion which Prophet Mohammad (P.B.H.) has left for humanity, by presenting it in its original form. The followers of Salafiat endeavour to understand Islam in the light of the basic principles of the Quran and the Hadith in a way which is the way of the predecessors of Islam. That is to say, the early companions of the Holy Prophet;’Sahabah’, and later on the Muslim theologians, the Muslim Scholars of Holy Prophet’s traditions: Mohaddiseen and the Muslim jurists Foqhae Ezam took leading part in presenting Islam to the disciples of Prophet Mohammad (P.B.H.) in its original form. These information and contents of knowledge are spread over so many volumes of books written on this topic, and their authors belonged to different continents and states, who had been established in different parts of the world with the expansion and spread of Islam. A wast study and research programme is needed for its investigation. No Islamic education can be obtained in its original form by obeying only some particular Imam or walk in the footsteps of a learned man. That is why, it is wrong to call this group as a sect of Islam. A sect is named after the connection it makes with some personality, such as, Hanafi: the followers of Imam Abu Hanifa (R.A.), Shafai: the followers of Imam Shafai (R.A.), Malki: the followers of Imam Malik (R.A.)and Hambali: the followers of Imam Ahmad Bin Hambal (R.A.). Some people associate Salafiat with wahabiat and relate it with Imam Mohammad Bin Abdul Wahab Najadi, which is done absolutely on the basis of confusion and party feeling. Though Mohammad Bin Abdul Wahab cherished almost the same view- point and followed the same principle which a Salafi has. But a Salafi is neither the follower of Mohammad Bin Abdul Wahab nor realizes him as his Imam. A Salafi admits that the Islam which Prophet Mohammad (P.B.H.) had left with his companions was the real Islam and true religion, and its followers had proved the superiority of this religion before the world. By and by this religion had its impact on half of the population of the world with full glamour and peace and tranquility, wherever Islam reached, there reached peace, justice and brotherhood. Moreover, the honour and prestige of the people was saved. The inhabitants of those places invited the followers of Islam to release them from the cruelty of cruel rulers. When the condition of the world became worse, it cast its evil influence also on the followers of Islam; their view-point changed adversely and their thinking and apprehension changed accordingly. The rulers of the time utilized learned men, Ulama, to establish their supremacy. The door of authoritative interpretation of Islamic law was shut, and a special kind of religion was propagated, making the people follow in the footsteps of certain learned men and the Imam, in consequently some of them became Hanafi, some Shafai, some regarded Imam Malik as their Imam, and some thought it comparatively better to follow Imam Ahmad Bin Hambal. Though Islam was one and the same, but its followers were divided into four sects and held their special places in the Holy Haram and the Qibla, so that no quarrel might arise. The followers of every sect offered their Namaz in a different way; everyone declared himself true and the other false. If any suspicion arose in anybody’s mind for anything, he was made silent pronouncing that it was the verdict of his Imam. And to prove the supremacy of their Imam every sect presented false and imaginary excellence in its favour, so that no follower might leave his sect. The Salafi consider worship of graves as ‘shirk’ (to regard a personality equivalent to God), which is the greatest sin. Man in obedient to God only as His creation. It is the teaching of Islam that if a man stands in need , he should ask it from God alone who is his creator. The prophet of Islam has prohibited to build construction over a grave, and in the same way there is no place of any sort of ‘URS’ (periodical celebration to honour a dead person) in Islam. To express extreme sorrow and celebrate the death anniversary of Imam Hussain (R.A.) in the month of Moharram, Milad of the Prophet and many other customs which are prevalent in the Muslims today were not found in the people of earlier ages of Islam. These things can not be regarded Islamic and so the Salafi don’t acknowledge them. We acknowledge Jehad (fight against evils), but that Jehad only which established justice and peace in the world, by which the honour and prestige of people was protected, children and women were provided safe and secure position, dishonesty and cruelty came to an end. The same kind of Jehad is required today also. Today Jehad has been defamed. To kill innocents for no reason, to squander wealth and treasure for nothing, to frighten and terrorise people by bomb blast in a cruel and brutal way, and to regard them as Jehad or to call the doers as Jehadi is absolute craziness and bankruptcy of intelligence. This is such a crime that any punishment prescribed for it is insufficient. Everyone should blame such a heinous crime, and should bring about Jehad against inhuman acts and terrorism. The Salafi are called as Ahle-Hadees too, because they give first and foremost importance to the Quran and the Hadith, and such people have already been called Ahle-Hadees in the early books of Islamic religion. The Salafi acknowledge the authoritative interpretation of Islamic law and take decision with thinking and apprehension regarding problems of every day life in the light of the Holy Quran and the examples set for us by the Holy Prophet. We don’t admit narrow-mindedness. The problems we face today have a wide scope; it is better to acknowledge right things than to show haughtiness in accepting them. We respect all the Imams and pay our regard to them as Imam. They were those men who have served Islam and humanity, their position is very high, their services are great; but mystic knowledge and learning can not be besieged nor any person can claim to do it. So we should always make search for truth and should accept the truth that has been proved, may it be in favour of or against to the saying of any Imam. The truth is with God and the Prophet; this is our view-point, this is our principle and this is our proclamation. We teach principles, lead people on the right path, make them learned; but it is up to their own conscience whether to accept them or not, as it is their right. We pray to ALLAH to give us strength to realize truth and stick to it. REFERENCE: Meaning of Salafiat http://www.aljamiatussalafiah.org/what_is_salafiah.html

Mani Shankar Aiyar & Indo-Pakistan Relations - 2 (Capital Talk - 2nd Feb 2012)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_aaawXJM33E








Mani Shankar Aiyar & Indo-Pakistan Relations - 3 (Capital Talk - 2nd Feb 2012)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IFb4EUZdB3E



KARACHI, Nov 12: Speakers at a conference on Saturday emphasised the need for working together in South Asia if the region is to tread the path of progress and prosperity. The international conference titled The Situation in South Asia – Global and Regional Implications was organised by the Shaheed Zulfikar Ali Bhutto Institute of Science and Technology (SZABIST) at the institute’s auditorium. The conference commenced with the welcome address delivered by Prof Dr Amanat Ali Jalbani, followed by senator Raza Rabbani’s speech in which he discussed Pakistan’s present geopolitical situation and reiterated the basic red lines, which were (1) respect for territorial sovereignty (2) issues should be dealt with sovereign equality (3) no boots on ground (4) cessation of drone attacks (5) no pressure from any power on decision-making vis-à-vis national security. The first session of the moot (Changing Situation in South Asia) was presided over by former foreign secretary Najumddin Shaikh. Dr Didier Chaudet of the Institute of Political Studies (Paris) was the first speaker of the day. He said when Pakistan came into being it was impossible to imagine to have no influence in Afghanistan. He said for Russia, Afghanistan was not the main issue: it only wanted to see what the US was doing. Global powers didn’t care much about Pakistan and Afghanistan, he said. Dr Julian Schofield of the Department of Political Science (Montreal) opined that China’s interest in Pakistan was shallow and superficial. Dr Ayesha Siddiqa contested Dr Schofield’s view and said the geo-strategic plates in the region were shifting as US-Pakistan relations were complex — there were strategic diversions and tactical conversions in the relations. She said there was an increased Chinese interest in Pakistan and the Chinese were moving very smartly. She said China wanted to get access to Pakistan’s resources but at the same time it didn’t want to take on additional liabilities. Replying to a question Ayesha Siddiqa said the military’s backing for certain non-state actors had negative implications. It could go to Afghanistan like India with options such as development and cultural exchange. She said one shouldn’t confuse equality with parity. The second session (Indo-Pak Relations: a Framework for Peace) was presided over by member of Indian parliament Mani Shankar Aiyar. The first speaker of the session historian Dr Mubarak Ali told the gathering that in the past efforts were made to write joint history textbooks, which didn’t materialise. He said our historical narratives carried hostility. There were attempts to isolate ourselves from India through history, then by using the Two-Nation Theory it was established that there’s nothing common between Hindus and Muslims. After the making of Bangladesh hostility towards India increased. He said Pakistan became an ideological state and thus liked to remain in isolation. He maintained though we read about Pakistan giving India the status of the Most Favoured Nation, it hadn’t made any effect on the life of the common man. Secretary-General of the Human Rights Commission of Pakistan I.A. Rehman said there was a time when Jinnah said that Pakistan would defend India’s boundaries, but then two things changed the whole situation (1) 1947 riots which were economically motivated (2) the issue of Kashmir after which Pakistan developed the theory of security concern and relied on the US. He said today instead of cooperating in Afghanistan, India and Pakistan were determined to compete. It’s unwise for both countries to think that either didn’t have a stake in Afghanistan. He said they were creating a problem which was as difficult as Kashmir. He said we needed to unscramble the mess that we’d created. A beginning had to be made, he articulated. Ahsan Munir said trade between India and Pakistan was governed by political interests rather than economic. Mr Aiyar said Pakistan was an irreversible historical fact and that “India and Pakistan are like Siamese twins”; they couldn’t float away from each other. He said we could either carry on punching one another or work together towards a common goal. He said history didn’t divide us but historiographers did. It led to the Two-Nation theory which manifested in Pakistan and then into a three-state reality. He said there were Muslims shrines in India just as there were Hindu shrines in Pakistan. He lauded the idea of writing a joint history which was a difficult task. He commented that communalised approach to history was dangerous. “We must recognise the diversity of our heritage.” He said there were people in the Indian foreign office who were ignorant of and prejudiced against Pakistan — foreign offices of both countries were a problem. We must resume restructuring of an uninterrupted and uninterruptible dialogue and prevent hostile elements from not letting the dialogue take place. He stressed we shouldn’t let the non-state actors disrupt dialogue. He said a window of opportunity in Nov 2011 had been seen (he appreciated that the prime minister of India had called the prime minister of Pakistan a man of peace) and we must consolidate that point. For that to happen we still had two and a half years. Agreeing with I.A. Rehman on working together on different forums, he said India and Pakistan should also work with each other for UN reform and nuclear disarmament. Two presentations were made in the third session, presided over by economist Kaiser Bengali: one by Dr Tipu Sultan (on health-related issues) and the other by Iffat Ara (on matters pertaining to trade). In the concluding session Mr Aiyar delivered a longish speech in which he by giving a detailed historic perspective emphasised the point that civilizationally India and Pakistan shared more than what set them apart. He began by suggesting that two words, asymmetry and non-reciprocity, were key to coming closer — one should be friendlier to the other. He argued trade between the two had to be dealt with in a sensitive manner rather than bringing down all barriers. After tracing the centuries’ old common history, and after touching upon the phase when Indian leaders (Gandhi, Nehru, etc) suffered inferiority complex vis-à-vis Europeans and then restored self-confidence, he said it was Tagore and Iqbal who started Asian Renaissance in the region. He said in early 1947 through a conference Nehru wanted Asia to be the centre of the world. He said if Pakistan had ancestral relations with West Asia and Central Asia, it shouldn’t bother India; similarly India also had relations with these regions. But the fact remained that there were more civilisational similarities between India and Pakistan. He said Mughals ruled India for hundreds of years and during that time only 24 per cent of the population was Muslim, which clearly indicated that there was no major attempt to forcibly convert Hindus into Muslims. He said South Asia had survived on the basis of plurality whereas West Asia had survived on the basis of uniformity. He disagreed with Javed Jabbar who wrote in one his books that there’s a Muslim nation in India. He said sub-identity had to be given recognition. He said we had common civilisation and only when India’s hostility got asserted a reaction from Pakistan was witnessed. He again suggested that a structured uninterrupted and uninterruptible dialogue was necessary and for that to happen there should be a designated day (Thursday) at the Wagah-Attari border; the foreign offices of both countries shouldn’t be allowed to prevent the meetings from happening; all subjects should be discussed etc.Najmuddin Shaikh said he was a bureaucrat and remained so, but Mr Aiyar was a bureaucrat who became a politician and had now turned into a visionary. REFERENCE: Historiographers, not history, blamed for India-Pakistan dividePeerzada Salman November 13, 2011 http://www.dawn.com/2011/11/13/historiographers-not-history-blamed-for-india-pakistan-divide.html 
Mani Shankar Aiyar & Indo-Pakistan Relations - 4 (Capital Talk - 2nd Feb 2012)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L9mGZAf3Lz0


These dazed and confused Political Mullahs have no idea of International Politics, International Relations and Trade Relations when they miserably try to defend Pakistan and Pakistan's National Interest through Islamic Lense. Please go through the public statements issued by two Chiefs of Jamat-e-Islami and then read the details about Saudi-India Diplomatic and Trade Relations while keeping in mind the Rampant and Deviant Statements of Jamat-e-Islami Chiefs on Diplomatic Relations with Non-Muslim States.
Qazi Hussain Ahmed, Former Amir (Chief) Jamat-e-Islami
Qazi sees international conspiracy against nuclear Pakistan GEO TV Updated at: 1719 PST, Sunday, May 10, 2009 http://www.geo.tv/5-10-2009/41789.htm SIALKOT: Jamaat-e-Islami (JI) former Amir Qazi Hussain Ahmed on Sunday said that international conspiracies were being hatched against Pakistan due to its nuclear capability. Addressing a news conference here, he said that United States, Israel and India were behind these conspiracies against nuclear Pakistan. He regretted that Pakistan is an ally of non-Muslim states instead of Muslim nations. Ahmed underscored that the country needed to end its alliance with the U.S. to resolve all of its problems. Former JI Amir further said that “The United States wants to see Indian dominance in this part of the world.”
Syed Munawar Hassan, Amir (Chief) Jamat-e-Islami
The JI Ameer stated this while addressing a large rally of party activists on The Mall on Sunday [Military action may lead to martial law, says Munawwar By Our Correspondent LAHORE Monday, May 11, 2009 - The News International http://thenews.jang.com.pk/daily_detail.asp?id=176929] Speaking on the occasion, the JI Ameer said Pakistan at the moment was facing three enemies in form of US, Israel and India which were the centre of evils. Terming India a state full of conflicts, Munawwar said “India was the name of contradiction and conflict.” The JI Ameer stressed that focus should be made on the eastern border of the countries and a strict check must be kept on the evil designs of India. “Our army should concentrate on the eastern borders of the country”, said the JI Ameer.

SAUDI-INDIA TIES [MUSLIM AND NON-MUSLIM RELATIONS]



New Delhi, January 21-26, 2006.

2006 News Story

King Abdullah receives a warm welcome in India 01/26/2006

http://www.saudiembassy.net/2006News/News/NewsDetail.asp?cIndex=5900


King Abdullah, Prime Minister Singh and President Abdul Kalam at National Day
Custodian of the Two Holy Mosques King Abdullah bin Abdulaziz is currently on a state visit to India, the first such visit by a Saudi king in more than 50 years. The visit aims to expand energy cooperation and trade relations with India, one of Asia’s fastest growing economies. Indian Prime Minister Manmohan Singh broke protocol by personally receiving King Abdullah at the airport January 22, a sign of how much importance India attaches to the royal visit, the Arab News reported. King Abdullah was also the guest of honor at India’s Republic Day celebrations in New Delhi today. King Abdullah and the Prime Minister held official talks yesterday after a ceremonial reception at the presidential palace, which included a 21-gun salute.



King Abdullah and Prime Minister Singh

The talks focused on long-term security cooperation, including fighting terrorism, international crime and energy security. The two nations signed a number of agreements, including a Memorandum of Understanding on fighting terrorism, an accord to avoid double-taxation, and a convention to promote bilateral investment. Following their meeting, King Abdullah and the Prime Minister opened a Saudi business exhibition, where Saudi and Indian businessmen signed 10 economic agreements. Yesterday evening, King Abdullah met with Indian President A.P.J. Abdul Kalam at the presidential palace in New Delhi. In remarks, the King offered his thanks for the warm reception, and expressed optimism that his visit to India would be a vital step towards closer cooperation between the two nations. “India’s economic growth has attracted world attention. We are happy that the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia will be one of India's major trade partners,” King Abdullah said. “Moreover, the Kingdom is also happy to host more than 1.5 million Indians who are contributing to the progress, development and prosperity of the two countries.”
King Abdullah and President Abdul Kalam
King Abdullah also expressed the hope that India would continue its supporting international efforts to achieve a fair and comprehensive resolution to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. Speaking to Saudi reporters in New Delhi Monday, Indian Minister of State for External Affairs E. Ahamed described King Abdullah’s visit as “important and historic.” He said India attached great importance to the visit, which would further strengthen longstanding relations between India and Saudi Arabia, the Arab News reported.

King Abdullah discusses trade in India
Oil Minister Mani Shankar Aiyar said that India would extend an offer to Saudi Aramco to collaborate on a Hindustan Petroleum refinery project in Visakhapatnam in India’s southern Andhra Pradesh region. Aiyar also said he hopes to discuss bilateral issues with Saudi Oil Minister Ali Al-Naimi, who is part of King Abdullah’s delegation. “The issue of hydrocarbon cooperation is also a component of bilateral talks that are going to be held between Prime Minister Manmohan Singh and the Saudi king,” Aiyar said, as quoted in the Arab News. “So far as the oil component of our energy security is concerned, we have a strong assurance from Saudi Arabia that any incremental requirement will be met by them,” he said. Aiyar also said that a 26 percent dependence on Saudi Arabia is optimal and that now there is a need to diversify oil sources. Saudi Arabia accounts for nearly a quarter of India’s total oil imports, which amount to around 1.9 million barrels per day.
King Abdullah at ceremonial reception
In an interview with India’s NDTV channel over the weekend, King Abdullah discussed bilateral relations between the two countries, as well as a number of regional and international issues of common interest, including energy and terrorism. The King underscored the friendly relations between Saudi Arabia and India, and said that he hopes India and Pakistan resolve their differences peacefully. Everything can be achieved through dialogue, he said. He also said he believes India can play a role in the Organization of the Islamic Conference, possibly as an observer, like Russia. On oil, King Abdullah said that Saudi Arabia has the capability to meet the petroleum needs of India and other countries. He remarked that the Kingdom prefers lower oil prices because higher prices are not in the interest of developing countries. In the interview, King Abdullah also said that Saudi Arabia’s friendly relations with China and India would not affect its good relations with the United States, which has been a friend of the Kingdom for over 60 years. In addition, he stressed Saudi Arabia’s staunch opposition to terrorism.

OIC: Saudi king hopes Pakistan will sponsor India by Our Correspondent

http://www.dawn.com/2006/01/23/top11.htm

NEW DELHI, Jan 22: King Abdullah of Saudi Arabia has expressed the hope that Pakistan would sponsor India’s membership as an observer of the OIC even as he called on the two countries to resolve their differences. In a rare interview to India’s NDTV news channel King Abdullah did not name Kashmir as the dispute but left no doubt that he was seriously concerned about the issue. “I do believe that India can play a role in such an organisation, just like Russia does. Russia has an observer status in the Organisation of Islamic Conference and I believe that it will be very beneficial if the application of India could be put forth by a country such as Pakistan,” said the king.

Asked whether his country’s ties with Pakistan had impeded relations with India, the monarch said: “You are correct. The issue of Pakistan has had an impact on Saudi-India relations. I believe that the conflict that exists, the complication that exists, do not help the image of either country.” He said Pakistan is a “brotherly country and friendly country with which we have great ties.”

On the other hand, he said, India is a friendly country with which the kingdom has historic ties. “There is no doubt that the relationship of Saudi Arabia with Pakistan is a great relationship.”

He said Saudi Arabia was not funding terrorism directly or indirectly against India or any other country through its funds in Pakistan.

About his present visit to China, he said ties with China and India were not to come about at the expense of the United States its old ally and solid friend.

Hinting at a deeper partnership with India, King Abdullah admitted that current oil prices were too high and thus hurting developing countries. He said Saudi Arabia had the ability to meet any requirement that India may have for its energy security.

“We want to strengthen the link between India and Saudi Arabia with regards to energy and the ability to provide energy to India over the long term. From our perspective I personally feel that the current price of oil is too high.

“The price is damaging to developing countries who subsequently have to suffer. The price needs to be at a more moderate level. With regards to the export of crude oil to India, we would like to provide India’s requirement of energy in the future,” he said.

He also said he would like to move ahead with reforms in all areas, such as women’s rights. But he felt his country needed to be ready for this.

The king will arrive in New Delhi on Jan 24 and will be the chief guest at the Republic Day celebrations.
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SAUDI-INDIA TRADE RELATION [Muslim Country and Non-Muslim Country]
From January 1991 to 2004, Government has approved 26,588 foreign collaboration (technical & financial) proposals with a corresponding foreign direct investment of Rs. 2,497.18 crore (US $ 67.15) billion and Cumulative inflows of FDI during 1991-2004 (up to November) is Rs. 131,387 Crore (US $ 32.15) billion.

The tables given below indicate the year-wise figures of foreign Investment approved with Saudi Arabian companies since 1991.

(* Updated up to November 2004)

(Inflow is 9.22% of the FDI approved)

The Industry-wise break-up of foreign direct investment and technical collaboration approved for Saudi Arabian companies during 01.08.1991 to 30.11.2004 is at Annex. I.

Details of FDI cases approved for Saudi Arabia during 01.08.1991 to 30.11.2004 is at Annex-II.

India-GCC Trade

Note: Imports figures for 200-2001 onwards do not include import of Petroleum Products (27100093) and Curde Oil (27090000)

Source: Directorate General of Foreign Trade, Ministry of Commerce & Industry,Government of India.

Trade between India and Kingdom of Saudi Arabia

(From 1999 to 2007)

List of Indian Companies Participated in Saudi Arabia’s

http://www.cgijeddah.com/cgijed/COMM/bilateral/Indian%20comp%20in%20tradefairs.htm
List of Saudi Companies/ Government Departments participated in the

“Saudi Arabia in India” Exhibition

http://www.cgijeddah.com/cgijed/COMM/bilateral/Saudi%20comp%20in%20tradefairs.htm

Wednesday, December 8, 2010

Jang Group is "Selective" over Saudi Arabia & WikiLeaks.



Jang Group is very "fond" of quoting Foreign Sources particularly when Foreign Sources carry news against any Elected Government of Pakistan specially if the party is PPP and Leader is Asif Ali Zardari. So lets quote genuine News published in The News International and Other Foreign Sources on Kingdom of Saudi Arabia and Corruption therein.

Corrupt, Vile & Filthy: Arabs, Aal-e-Saud, & Wahhaabis. http://chagataikhan.blogspot.com/2010/06/corrupt-vile-filthy-arabs-aal-e-saud.html


NEW YORK: Saudi King Abdullah called President Asif Ali Zardari the greatest obstacle to Pakistan’s progress, according to an online report of New York Times that quoted Wikileaks as saying. The report further quoted King Abdullah as saying: “When the head is rotten, it affects the whole body.” The cables released by Wikileaks, the whistle-blower, disclose that aging monarch of Saudi Arabia, King Abdullah, as speaking scathingly about the leaders of Iraq and Pakistan. Speaking to another Iraqi official about Nuri Kamal al-Maliki, the Iraqi prime minister, King Abdullah said, “You and Iraq are in my heart, but that man is not.” The king called President Asif Ali Zardari of Pakistan the greatest obstacle to that country’s progress. “When the head is rotten,” he said, “it affects the whole body.” REFERENCE: Saudi King called Zardari greatest obstacle to Pak progress: report Updated at: 20 PST, Monday, November 29, 2010 http://www.thenews.com.pk/latest-news/5791.htm Saudi King called Zardari greatest obstacle to Pak progress: report Updated at: 0012 PST, Monday, November 29, 2010 http://www.geo.tv/11-29-2010/75020.htm

Wednesday, December 08, 2010, Muharram 01, 1432 A.H


















'A picture speaks a thousand words' Sons of Late. King Faisal [Great Great Great Maternal Grandson of Mutawwa Sheikh Mohammad Bin Abd Al Wahab] Turki Al Faisal and Saud Al Faisal with NEO CON Ex- US Vice President Dick" Cheney [Wahabis are one big fraud] - Prince Saud, Prince Turki,Vice President and Mrs. Cheney http://www.saudiembassy.net/archive/2006/news/page562.aspx Man is known by the company he keeps DEATH SQUADS: Seymour Hersh, Dick Cheney & Secret Assassination Wing http://chagataikhan.blogspot.com/2009/05/seymor-hersh-dick-cheney-secret.html


ROVER’S DIARY: Blessed are the WikiLeaks revolutionaries —Babar Ayaz

It is ironic that the Saudis have labelled Zardari as a “rotten head”, while their whole body polity is rotten. This comment is like the pot calling the kettle black. Pakistan has much more respect for human rights and freedom to criticise the government, while Saudi Arabia is politically far behind


Blessed are the people who live in post-Second World War times, when humankind has progressed more than it has ever done before. Blessed are the people who live in the times of information technology. Blessed are the people who live in the times of democratisation of information. Blessed are the people who are using this technological revolution to bring out in the open what our rulers do behind closed doors. REFERENCE: DAILY TIMES Tuesday, December 07, 2010 http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=2010\12\07\story_7-12-2010_pg3_4


- From left to right: Dick Cheney, Prince Bandar, Condoleezza Rice, and George W. Bush, on the Truman Balcony of the White House on September 13, 2001. [Source: White House] - Defense Secretary Dick Cheney takes a leading role in drawing up the plans for the US invasion of Iraq (see December 1990). He is appalled by what he calls the “lack of creativity” of the initial plans, drawn up by a number of senior generals. Cheney and Joint Chiefs Chairman Colin Powell spend days poring over the plans, with Cheney pressuring both Powell and the generals to make wide-ranging changes. But the generals respect Cheney’s input. “He wasn’t a micromanager like McNamara,” one general later recalls, referring to former Defense Secretary Robert McNamara, who planned much of the US’s Vietnam strategies. “And he wasn’t arrogant like [former Defense Secretary Donald] Rumsfeld. He wanted this one done right.” Overwhelming Force - Cheney joins Powell in advocating the “enhanced option,” adding 100,000 more troops to the initial invasion force to bring troop strength up to nearly half a million US forces slated to go into Iraq. Powell and Cheney have no intention of being undermanned by Iraq’s large ground forces. And Cheney wants to slough off the remnants of what many call the “Vietnam syndrome.” He wants a resounding victory. “The military is finished in this society if we screw this up,” he tells Saudi Arabia’s Prince Bandar (see August 5, 1990 and After). While Powell and Cheney see eye-to-eye on most invasion-related issues, they do disagree on one fundamental issue: the possible use of the Army’s tactical nuclear arsenal (see Mid-August, 1990). (Nuclear weapons will not be used in the Iraq invasion.) Limited Role of Congress? - Cheney sees no reason for Congress to have anything more than a peripheral role in the entire affair (see December 1990). Authors Lou Dubose and Jake Bernstein later write: “Despite the fact that going to war with Iraq would be a larger undertaking than the D-Day invasion of Normandy, Cheney argued that the president did not need the consent of Congress. He seemed more understanding of King Fahd’s polling of the royal family and calling Arab leaders (see August 5, 1990 and After) than he was of [President] Bush’s willingness to go to Congress for consent” (see January 9-13, 1991). [DUBOSE AND BERNSTEIN, 2006, PP. 101-102] REFERENCE: Late 1990: Defense Secretary Cheney Helps Plan Iraq Invasion http://www.historycommons.org/context.jsp?item=alate90invade#alate90invade Profile: Bandar bin Sultan a.k.a. "Bandar Bush", Prince Bandar http://www.historycommons.org/entity.jsp?entity=bandar_bin_sultan

ISLAMABAD: A WikiLeaks report has claimed that Saudi Foreign Affairs Minister Prince Saud al-Faisal, commenting on the assassination of former Pakistan People's Party chairperson Benazir Bhutto, had observed that he had been afraid of just "such an outcome" ever since she had decided to return to Pakistan. The WikiLeaks quoted the prince the prince as cautioning in a meeting held at the US Foreign Ministry on January 2, 2008, that the “US must not be seen publicly to be influencing Pakistan's internal affairs, lest it inadvertently inflame matters by provoking extremists to further violence." Prince Saud characterised Pakistan's internal situation as "serious and tense", and described the country's political environment as "poisonous". He emphasised the need to maintain stability, noting that the key challenge for then President Pervez Musharraf to maintain the unity of the Pakistani armed forces. He voiced strong support for holding planned parliamentary elections, but also said a limited postponement would be acceptable, given the current situation in the country. Postponing the elections could be "an opportunity for the Pakistanis to talk things out", he said. Prince Saud cautioned that Pakistan must be allowed to resolve its current political crisis internally, without overt, external pressure. REFERENCE: ‘Prince Saud feared Benazir would be assassinated’ By: Mian Abrar Published: December 03, 2010 http://pakistantoday.com.pk/pakistan-news/National/03-Dec-2010/Prince-Saud-feared-Benazir-would-be-assassinated

Nobody in Pakistan Press "Particularly The Jang Group" is interested in "Juicy Leaks on Saudi Corruption"



ISLAMABAD: The letter written by Saudi Prince Bandar bin Khalid bin Abdul Aziz Al-Saud to the Chief Justice of Pakistan alleging that substandard accommodation on exorbitant rates was provided to the Haj pilgrims from Pakistan in Makkah by the Government of Pakistan has turned up to be genuine. The foreign ministry has been informed about this by Pakistan Ambassador in Saudi Arabia, Alhaj Umer Khan Ali Sherzaie, through his D/O letter. The official confirmation from the Saudi Foreign Office is being followed, as the ambassador took up the matter with Alla-Din Al-Askari, chief of protocol Royal State of Saudi Arabia. Well-placed sources told The News here that the envoy had verified the authenticity of the communication to the Foreign Office here upon the information supplied by Pakistan’s Consul General in Jeddah Abdul Salik to him, who has reported to the embassy after a probe that the letter has been duly written by His Royal Highness, the Prince, who has a distinguished status in the Royalty. The letter was dispatched to the Chief Justice of Pakistan late last month and Justice Iftikhar Muhammad Chaudhary ordered the Ministry of Religious Affairs to report to the court within 15 days. The orders were made on 3rd of November. Later, the matter was also referred to the Foreign Office.


The Supreme Court, in its communication on the day, declared, “The Hon’ble Chief Justice of Pakistan received a letter purportedly written by Prince Bandar Bin Khalid Bin Abdul Aziz Al-Saud, alleging that substandard accommodation on exorbitant rates was provided to the pilgrims of Pakistan to Makkah-tul-Mukarramah by the Ministry of Religious Affairs, Government of Pakistan. It has further been alleged that hired buildings were 3.5 km away from Haram whereas he had offered to the Government of Pakistan to provide the buildings nearer to the Haram on cheaper rates. On the letter, the Hon’ble Chief Justice of Pakistan passed the order, This issue seems to be serious and may cause bad name for our government. Call for comments from the Ministry of Religious Affairs and this matter may be brought in the notice of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs.” Accordingly, comments were received from the Ministry of Religious Affairs and the Hon’ble Chief Justice of Pakistan passed the following orders: Copy of the comments be sent to Ministry of Foreign Affairs to look into this case in continuation of our earlier order. Let Foreign Office take up this matter on government to government level.” The Saudi prince told the Supreme Court that Pakistan’s Ministry of Religious Affairs is indulging in corruption while dealing with Haj pilgrims, the reports said. ‘’We offered cheaper accommodation within two kilometres of the Haj congregation venue but (this was rejected).’’ ‘Our offer was 3,500 Saudi Riyals per pilgrim but the Pakistani authorities rented out the accommodation,” he said. ‘The Pakistani pilgrims are still being charged 3,500-3,600 Saudi Riyals for this accommodation although the rent at such a far-off location is not more than 1,500 Riyals under any circumstances,’ he stated. Prince Khalid said in the letter that “there (is) concrete evidence of financial bungling and departmental corruption as far as the Haj affairs of Pakistani ministry is concerned”. He urged the court to take note of the alarming situation. Chief Justice Iftikhar Muhammad Chaudhry directed the secretary in-charge of the ministry to furnish a detailed response on the accusations made in the letter within 15 days. Federal Minister for Religious Affairs Hamid Saeed Kazmi told the National Assembly on the following day: “We have not received any such letter from the Saudi prince.”

“I have seen such reports only in the media. I want to assure that we will hold a thorough probe and stringent action will be taken against officials if proven guilty.” As many as 160,000 Pakistanis went to Saudi Arabia this year. Interestingly, secretary religious affairs ministry disputed the credentials of the letter as he was also supported by the minister subsequently. Now the minister has gone to Saudi Arabia to perform Haj with his family members as the leader of Pakistan’s delegation. Well-placed sources told this scribe that the federal secretary was part of the team that accorded the approval to the hiring of disputed accommodation and the officials of the same ministry are carrying out the investigations. REFERENCE: Saudi prince’s letter to CJ is genuine Updated at Thursday, November 11, 2010 By M Saleh Zaafir http://beta.thenews.com.pk/TodaysPrintDetail.aspx?ID=2005&Cat=13

During "Judicial Crisis in 2007" the same Saudi Arabia and their Vile, Corrupt, Pervert, Rascal Princes tried to Bribe the Chief Justice of Pakistan at the behest of Musharraf. The Honourable Chief Justice of Pakistan should have written letter to King Abdullah on this Naked Fascism of Saudi Arabia. Jang Group has removed [permanently] many news stories from their web cache to lie blatantly without being caught. Now in 2010 that lick-spittle Prince Prince Bandar bin Khalid bin Faisal Al-Saud Offices: Chairman of the board of directors, AL-WATAN newspaper http://www.pbs.org/wnet/wideangle/shows/saudi/cards10.html is writing a letter to CJP on Corruption??? Where was this suddenly found conscience when they kept watching silently the Judicial Murder of Bhutto and not only that they also accepted rather arranged the Exile of Mr. Nawaz Sharif [why the Prince didn't write any letter], instead of writing letters these "2000" Saudi Princes should take a deep breath and do some soul searching. My intention is not to condone corruption but unearth this "double standard" because the same Jang Group had viciously attacked Saudi Diplomat and Sheikh Sudais [Imam Kaaba] when they intervened in Lal Masjid Affair.


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ISLAMABAD: The Saudi Ambassador to Pakistan Ali S Awadh Asseri met the deposed Chief Justice of Pakistan, Justice Iftikhar Muhammad Chaudhry, to extend an invitation for Haj, an offer that was politely declined. “Saying thank you, the deposed CJ told the ambassador he could not go abroad in the present crisis,” a family source said. Asseri went to see Justice Chaudhry at 10 am and remained with him for almost half-an-hour, the source told The News. The Interior Ministry, however, said it had no knowledge of the meeting but the interior minister said the ambassador did not need any prior permission to see the deposed CJ and he could go whenever he wanted. Although, many Western diplomats have been meeting politicians, Asseri is the first diplomat who was allowed to see Justice Chaudhry since his house arrest on November 3. Deposed Justice Bhagwan Das confirmed that he was in the picture about the meeting but said he did not know its details. A close confidante of Justice Chaudhry and leading lawyer, Athar Minallah, told The News that the Saudi ambassador went to see Justice Chaudhry for extending him an invitation of Haj. Minallah said that Saudi ambassador had also invited Justice Chaudhry before March 9 when he was first sacked. Later, the Saudi government had again extended the invitation after his restoration, he said. And now when the time for performing Haj is getting nearer with many intending pilgrims already flown to Makkah, Ambassador Asseri did not forget his last commitment and again went to remind Justice Chaudhry about this standing offer.


Minallah said Justice Chaudhry thanked the ambassador for inquiring his well being and extending the Haj invitation but said he could not accept it at this point of time. Justice Chaudhry told the ambassador that the people of Pakistan were passing through a critical phase of history. It would be therefore unwise on his part to leave them alone and to go for Haj. But he said he was deeply grateful for the invitation extended by the Saudi government. Justice Chaudhry also told the ambassador that he was entirely committed to the cause of rule of law and the restoration of the judiciary. According to Minallah, Justice Chaudhry was firm on his previous stand and no let-up was noticed in his strong determination. He said the continued confinement has failed to break Justice Chaudhry and he was as optimistic today as was before November 3.

Tariq Butt adds: “The former chief justice wants to perform Haj along with his family. We are prepared to facilitate his pilgrimage,” Ambassador Asseri told The News. He said Iftikhar Muhammad Chaudhry had requested to the embassy for visa to perform Haj, and “my meeting with him was about that.” The diplomat said there was also an outstanding invitation to Chaudhry for visit to Saudi Arabia that was extended to him five months back. At the time, he was the chief justice of the Supreme Court. On being approached by this correspondent, Caretaker Interior Minister Lt-Gen (retd) Hamid Nawaz said that to his knowledge, the deposed judge had so far made no request to the government, indicating his intention to go for Haj. “First, he has to write to the government showing his keenness for performing Haj. Only then, we will consider his case,” he said.

The government has repeatedly stated that none of the deposed judges is confined to his house and every one of them has free access to movement. However, no visitor is allowed to meet any of these justices as police continue to man different barricades on roads leading to the Judges’ Enclave and elsewhere. The latest refusal to a meeting with the former chief justice came when former prime minister Nawaz Sharif had made a bid on Thursday. “I will find out whether or not the former judge is going for Haj,” Interior Ministry spokesman Brig (retd) Javed Iqbal Cheema told The News. “I will let you know,” he said but did not call back. The Saudi ambassador said he did not discuss with the former judge any matter concerning Pakistan’s internal affairs. The deposed chief justice was not available for comment. Asseri’s meeting has assumed great importance in the prevailing situation when a logjam exists between the government and the judges of the Supreme Court and the high courts, who had either refused or were not called to take oath under the Provisional Constitution Order (PCO) that President General Pervez Musharraf issued on Nov 3. REFERENCE: Jang Group has removed [permanently] many news stories from their web cache to lie blatantly without being caught, here is the source for the quote : http://www.paklinks.com/gs/pakistan-affairs/271499-ex-cj-iftikhar-meets-saudi-ambassador-exile-deal-offered.html Saudi envoy meets deposed CJ, invites him for Haj Iftikhar declines invitation; says he cannot leave country in present situation By Umar Cheema Dec 7th, 2007 07:46 PM http://thenews.jang.com.pk/top_story...l.asp?Id=11593
http://www.thenews.com.pk/TodaysPrintDetail.aspx?ID=11593&Cat=13&dt=12/10/2007




ISLAMABAD: Saudi Ambassador, Ali Awaz Al Asiri called on confined former chief Justice, Iftikhar Chaudhry at his residence. Intelligence sources told that this meeting between the Saudi ambassador and the former chief justice lasted for about an hour at the Judges Colony, where the demands for the re-instatement of the Judges and other options deliberated. Sources told that following the parley with the chief justice, Saudi ambassador also visited the foreign office here and discussed matters of national importance. REFERENCE: Saudi envoy meets former CJ Iftikhar Chaudhry Updated at Friday, December 07, 2007 1330 PST http://thenews.jang.com.pk/updates.asp?id=33504 REFERENCE: Jang Group has removed [permanently] many news stories from their web cache to lie blatantly without being caught, here is the source for the above Umar Cheema's quote : http://www.paklinks.com/gs/pakistan-affairs/271499-ex-cj-iftikhar-meets-saudi-ambassador-exile-deal-offered.html



Saudi Arabia is ready to offer Pakistan's sacked chief justice Iftikhar Mohammed Chaudhry, shelter in the kingdom, Pakistani government sources told Adnkronos International (AKI). High-level sources told AKI, on condition of anonymity, that this was discussed when the Saudi Ambassador to Pakistan, Ali Awaz Al Asiri, called on the deposed chief justice at his residence in the capital Islamabad on Friday. They said that the meeting was set up by the Pakistani government. Al Asiri is believed to have invited Chaudhry and his family to make the Haj or Muslim pilgrimage to the holy city of Mecca in Saudi Arabia, this year. The Haj is scheduled to take place this month. Al Asiri is also believed to have offered Chaudhry and his family a prolonged stay in Saudi Arabia. Sources within the Saudi consulate in Karachi, on the condition of anonymity, also confirmed to AKI the offer of shelter to Chaudhry and said that the government of Saudi Arabia had tried to bring stability to Pakistan. Chaudhry was sacked as chief justice after President Pervez Musharraf declared a state of emergency in Pakistan on 3 November, citing rising extremism and an unruly judiciary. The former head of the Supreme Court was placed under house arrest. While opposition leader and former prime minister Nawaz Sharif was prevented from meeting Chaudhry on Thursday, just a day later Al Asiri was allowed to meet him. It is believed that the potential deal would help break the deadlock within opposition parties who are divided on whether to contest the January general elections if the sacked judges are not reinstated. A Saudi-brokered deal would be a face-saving gesture for Chaudhry and the entire opposition who need to deal with Musharraf's government and also support an independent judiciary to gain public support. REFERENCE: Jang Group has removed [permanently] many news stories from their web cache to lie blatantly without being caught, here is the source for the above Umar Cheema's quote : http://www.paklinks.com/gs/pakistan-affairs/271499-ex-cj-iftikhar-meets-saudi-ambassador-exile-deal-offered.html Saudi envoy meets deposed CJ, invites him for Haj
Umar Cheema Saturday, December 08, 2007 http://www.thenews.com.pk/TodaysPrintDetail.aspx?ID=11593&Cat=13&dt=12/10/2007



WikiLeaks cables: Saudi princes throw parties boasting drink, drugs and sex

Royals flout puritanical laws to throw parties for young elite while religious police are forced to turn a blind eye









Saudi students at a prayer event in Riyadh
These Saudi students at a prayer event in Riyadh conform to the puritanical image of the country, but worldly pleasures are available behind closed doors to the very rich, WikiLeaks cables show. Photograph: Fahad Shadeed/Reuters

In what may prove a particularly incendiary cable, US diplomats describe a world of sex, drugs and rock'n'roll behind the official pieties of Saudi Arabian royalty.
Jeddah consulate officials described an underground Halloween party, thrown last year by a member of the royal family, which broke all the country's Islamic taboos. Liquor and prostitutes were present in abundance, according to leaked dispatches, behind the heavily-guarded villa gates.
The party was thrown by a wealthy prince from the large Al-Thunayan family. The diplomats said his identity should be kept secret. A US energy drinks company also put up some of the finance.
"Alcohol, though strictly prohibited by Saudi law and custom, was plentiful at the party's well-stocked bar. The hired Filipino bartenders served a cocktail punch using sadiqi, a locally-made moonshine," the cable said. "It was also learned through word-of-mouth that a number of the guests were in fact 'working girls', not uncommon for such parties."
The dispatch from the US partygoers, signed off by the consul in Jeddah, Martin Quinn, added: "Though not witnessed directly at this event, cocaine and hashish use is common in these social circles."
The underground party scene is "thriving and throbbing" in Saudi Arabia thanks to the protection of Saudi royalty, the dispatch said. But it is only available behind closed doors and for the very rich.
More than 150 Saudi men and women, most in their 20s and 30s, were at the party. The patronage of royalty meant the feared religious police kept a distance. Admission was controlled through a strict guest list. "The scene resembled a nightclub anywhere outside the kingdom: plentiful alcohol, young couples dancing, a DJ at the turntables and everyone in costume."
The dispatch said the bar featured a top shelf of well-known brands of liquor, the original contents reportedly replaced with sadiqi. On the black market, they reported, a bottle of Smirnoff vodka can cost 1,500 riyals (£250) compared with 100 riyals (£16) for the locally-made vodka.
In a venture into Saudi sociology, the diplomats explained why they thought their host was so attached to Nigerian bodyguards, some of whom were working on the door. "Most of the prince's security forces were young Nigerian men. It is common practice for Saudi princes to grow up with hired bodyguards from Nigeria or other African nations who are of similar age and who remain with the prince well into adulthood. The lifetime spent together creates an intense bond of loyalty"
The cable claimed it was easy for would-be partygoers to find a patron out of more than 10,000 princes in the kingdom. Some are "royal highnesses" with direct descent from King Abdul Aziz, while others are "highnesses" from less direct branches.
One young Saudi told the diplomat that big parties were a recent trend. Even a few years ago, he said, the only weekend activity was "dating" among small groups who met inside the homes of the rich. Some of the more opulent houses in Jeddah feature basement bars, discos and clubs. One high-society Saudi said: "The increased conservatism of our society over these past years has only moved social interaction to the inside of people's homes." http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/dec/07/wikileaks-cables-saudi-princes-parties


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